

| Subject: | Re: Where's the other end of my broken ground strap? |
| From: | George Gaudette |
| Date: | Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:55:41 +0000 |
I have found a photo of "the other end". Like the photo in my first post on this topic, this is not a photo my van -- it's another photo posted to TheSamba.com. There's no AC compressor in this photo, which really helps for viewing. Here it is, in case anyone finds this thread later: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/425705.jpg https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=286798 (discussion page) Note also the empty bolt hole a little higher in the photo, I think that would work just as well though with the compressor in place it's a little harder to reach. (On my van there's no second wire (the brown/black one) sharing the bolt location -- it's connected to the upper bolt instead, assuming it's the same wire.) So now I know I had located the correct bolt location before posting -- where the cable terminal ended up is a mystery. Anyhow, on to the multimeter diagnostics.... thanks again for advice folks. -George On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:20 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > I know other chimed in. The other end of that ground strap is attached to > the cylinder head. This ground is extremely important as it helps to > provide a "0" reference point for the fuel injection sensors. Depending on > year there are also other ground wires on the other end or it is with one > of the screws holding the coolant pipe for the oil cooler. To get to > removing the AC compressor will help. There is enough room for the > compressor to be moved out of the way without disconnecting the lines. > > The major ground for both starting and charging current is at the front of > the transmissions. If both these grounds are missing than parts of the fuel > injections system will try to be the ground path and you can be amazed at > how much wiring you can fry. > > Looking at that photo you have a serious case of neglect going on with all > those grounds and the day will come that all sorts of things can go wrong. > > Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of George Gaudette > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:36 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Where's the other end of my broken ground strap? > > Hello, > > A braided ground cable on my van fell apart, just like: > > > https://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/Mikls63rag/Posting%20shit%20up/2010-09-06171905.jpg > > Same cable as mine -- one end bolts in clear view under the starter. > > I am not...very mechanically inclined. I don't even own a voltmeter (I > know, I deserve whatever comments I get for that admission!) But this > seemed like a small job I could handle. Battery disconnected. > > I have two questions: > > 1) Other bolt location? > > The other bolt location is... somewhere under the AC compressor? I can't > just follow the cable -- it was very brittle and pulled off in my hands > when I gave it a little tug (dummy). But it should still be easy to spot, > since the cable terminal is should still be attached, right? > > I don't suppose anybody has a good photo of "the other end"? > > 2) **Can** a Vanagon start without that ground cable being connected? > > Here's what happened: The van was running normally. I parked for a > couple minutes, turned the key, but no sound from the starter. I could > hear the fuel pump do its initiation whiz sound for a sec, then silence > until I relaxed the key. > > The broken ground strap looked to me like the obvious culprit. But if the > van **can** start without it, then I've probably got another problem, right? > > For what it's worth, I did install a new cable already, but no change to > symptom. I'm hoping I just chose the wrong location to bolt it to > (question #1). I did clean up the terminals some, but not down to bare > metal. Light coat of dialectic grease on everything, including the new > braid. > > Either way, the van is on its way to my mechanic, but I'd rather drive > then be towed. > > Thanks for reading! > > -George >
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