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Subject:Re: advice on new propane tank
From:Neil2
Date:Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:45:50 -0700

I'd never visit that place again.  Insane there are places operating like
that (5x).

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:52 AM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hmmm..... .  I bought a new GoWesty tank and had it installed locally.  I
> asked the mechanic where to have it purged, and he recommended a local RV
> dealer.  I took it there.  I am certain that the place did not use a "purge
> kit."  The person who first was going to do it said that he had to simply
> fill it, empty it, and refill it again.  I was dubious, and asked the shop
> foreman, who said no, it required five times.  So, that is what they did.
> There was no portable tank involved.
>
> I have not used the propane since.  I plan to use it in two weeks from
> now.  What do I do to make sure the tank is safe?  This was not a small
> expenditure, but I did it for safety.  Now I am not confident that it is
> safe.
>
> mcneely
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've been using a Worthington 3lb tank for a couple of years. I love it,
> > and it fits nicely under the seat. I now carry one 1lb bottle for when it
> > runs out, but if you weigh it after use, you can usually avoid running
> out.
> >
> > Just take it to a propane filler, it purges with the fill. They open the
> > release valve and air is pushed out and replaced with liquid propane and
> > vapor. I don't think you'll be able to fill it yourself since modern auto
> > stop portable tanks do not allow rapid flow from the valve, and I also
> > think the auto stop float will shut off the tank when upside down.
> Besides,
> > it's not a good idea, and not even worth the trouble even if you could.
> >
> > Those safety features were designed to protect us from ourselves!
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> > Of Neil2
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:02 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: advice on new propane tank
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Please tell the kids on FB since this could save a Vanagon, er a kids
> life
> > I mean!
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:09 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > They're full of air to start.  That's too lean to burn.  In use
> > > they're full of propane which is too rich to burn.  You have to get a
> > > new tank past the point of containing an explosive mixture before you
> > > can use it or the first time you light something it could flash back
> > > through the lines and blow the tank apart.
> > >
> > > Yrs,
> > > d
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@ymail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So a new tank needs to be purged?  I did not know this.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from someone's plumbing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 01:37, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Off the cuff -- I'd take it to any propane place to purge.  During
> > > > purging
> > > > > at some point there will be an explosive mixture in the tank, you
> > > > > don't want to be around if it finds a spark.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yrs,
> > > > > d
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:32 PM, gary hradek <hradek@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I just bought a Worthington Pro Grade 4.25 lb. Empty Propane Tank
> > from
> > > > >> Home Depot to use with my Colemanstove.   The 1 pound cylinders
> are
> > > > >> nowclose to 8 dollars a piece.   I was goingto fill it from the 20
> > > pound
> > > > >> tank but they say something about purging it.   Can I just fill
> and
> > > > empty
> > > > >> it a few timeswith propane vapor before trying to fill it with
> > > > >> the
> > > > liquid
> > > > >> by inverting the 20pound tank?   I am guessing there is acharge to
> > > have
> > > > it
> > > > >> purged somewhere?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Gary
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil2
> > '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky)
> > '86 Vanagon (SaVannah)
> > '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby)
> > '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL)
> > Fulltiming since August 2008
> > Nunquam Pendite Divendium
> >
>

--
Neil2
'82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky)
'86 Vanagon (SaVannah)
'08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby)
'90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL)
Fulltiming since August 2008
Nunquam Pendite Divendium