

| Subject: | Re: advice on new propane tank |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:15:50 -0400 |
I've been poking around a little. One purge method is to pull a vacuum on the tank and allow it to fill with propane vapor; another is to fill with propane vapor and vent to atmosphere "several times" -- sounds like that's what your outfit did. That's perfectly sensible, not the same at all as filling five times with liquid propane. Yrs, d On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Neil2 <vidublu@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd never visit that place again. Insane there are places operating like > that (5x). > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:52 AM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hmmm..... . I bought a new GoWesty tank and had it installed locally. I > > asked the mechanic where to have it purged, and he recommended a local RV > > dealer. I took it there. I am certain that the place did not use a > "purge > > kit." The person who first was going to do it said that he had to simply > > fill it, empty it, and refill it again. I was dubious, and asked the > shop > > foreman, who said no, it required five times. So, that is what they did. > > There was no portable tank involved. > > > > I have not used the propane since. I plan to use it in two weeks from > > now. What do I do to make sure the tank is safe? This was not a small > > expenditure, but I did it for safety. Now I am not confident that it is > > safe. > > > > mcneely > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > I've been using a Worthington 3lb tank for a couple of years. I love > it, > > > and it fits nicely under the seat. I now carry one 1lb bottle for when > it > > > runs out, but if you weigh it after use, you can usually avoid running > > out. > > > > > > Just take it to a propane filler, it purges with the fill. They open > the > > > release valve and air is pushed out and replaced with liquid propane > and > > > vapor. I don't think you'll be able to fill it yourself since modern > auto > > > stop portable tanks do not allow rapid flow from the valve, and I also > > > think the auto stop float will shut off the tank when upside down. > > Besides, > > > it's not a good idea, and not even worth the trouble even if you could. > > > > > > Those safety features were designed to protect us from ourselves! > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf > > > Of Neil2 > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:02 AM > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: Re: advice on new propane tank > > > > > > David, > > > > > > Please tell the kids on FB since this could save a Vanagon, er a kids > > life > > > I mean! > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:09 AM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > They're full of air to start. That's too lean to burn. In use > > > > they're full of propane which is too rich to burn. You have to get a > > > > new tank past the point of containing an explosive mixture before you > > > > can use it or the first time you light something it could flash back > > > > through the lines and blow the tank apart. > > > > > > > > Yrs, > > > > d > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@ymail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > So a new tank needs to be purged? I did not know this. > > > > > > > > > > Sent from someone's plumbing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 01:37, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Off the cuff -- I'd take it to any propane place to purge. > During > > > > > purging > > > > > > at some point there will be an explosive mixture in the tank, you > > > > > > don't want to be around if it finds a spark. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yrs, > > > > > > d > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:32 PM, gary hradek <hradek@yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I just bought a Worthington Pro Grade 4.25 lb. Empty Propane > Tank > > > from > > > > > >> Home Depot to use with my Colemanstove. The 1 pound cylinders > > are > > > > > >> nowclose to 8 dollars a piece. I was goingto fill it from the > 20 > > > > pound > > > > > >> tank but they say something about purging it. Can I just fill > > and > > > > > empty > > > > > >> it a few timeswith propane vapor before trying to fill it with > > > > > >> the > > > > > liquid > > > > > >> by inverting the 20pound tank? I am guessing there is acharge > to > > > > have > > > > > it > > > > > >> purged somewhere? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Gary > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Neil2 > > > '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky) > > > '86 Vanagon (SaVannah) > > > '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby) > > > '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL) > > > Fulltiming since August 2008 > > > Nunquam Pendite Divendium > > > > > > > > > -- > Neil2 > '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky) > '86 Vanagon (SaVannah) > '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby) > '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL) > Fulltiming since August 2008 > Nunquam Pendite Divendium >
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