Oh I like that, OlRivrRat. I think'tt work well. If it's strong enough to open it on its own once unlocked then I figure it'll make a loaded hatch easier at least. 

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 13:50, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> 
>        1 Additional Note though ~ These Struts are the 1st Set I have ever that would cause 
> 
> the Hatch to Lift WithOut Help once the Lock is Unlocked ~ During the Summer I have to be
> 
> Sure & Not have My Chin in the way when I release the Lock ~
> 
> 
>> On 29 Mar , 2017, at 11:41 AM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>> 
>>      I'm in trouble now ~ I decided that I would go out this Morn' & Measure to know
>> 
>> for sure ~ Keep in mind that it is only 50ºF this Morn' so the Struts are considerably 
>> 
>> weaker than on a Hot Summer Day ~ But ~ I Was Way Off ~ 
>> 
>>      Went out with a 330Lb "Fish"Scale I have & only needed about 10% of it ~
>> 
>> Out on the End of the Hatch it takes 30Lbs to pull it down & @ the Bottom of the 
>> 
>> Window it takes 45Lbs ~ I'll do the same test this Summer & let YouAll know ~
>> 
>>      There Really have been times when it has seemed to take everything I had
>> 
>> to get it to go down ~ But than I Am Old ~ 
>> 
>>                                                      ORR ~ DeanB
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Mar , 2017, at 10:39 AM, Neil2 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have about 7 new struts that look at first glance to be exactly like
>>> those in the link above from GW's site.  I can send you the identifier if
>>> you're interested.  I don't want to make any money on 'em.
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> My friend Simon bought some 1250 N struts from Germany for the similar
>>>> reason. They're great, lifts his spare tire rack and bike rack ( with tire
>>>> and bike) that I made for him.
>>>> 
>>>> Without anything on the hatch it's hard to close.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately the German source has dried up, but I mention it so you will
>>>> know that 1250N is strong enough for a good load on hatch.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, and before anyone asks, it's been almost three years now with the
>>>> struts and no adverse effect noted on the hatch.
>>>> 
>>>> I've been looking for similar struts but not found any yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Alistair
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@YMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recently got a Gary Lee multipurpose rack, which has my spare, a gas
>>>> can, and a hi-lift jack on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I need some stronger struts and am having a hard time finding info about
>>>> them.  Does anyone hear have any experience with them and could possibly
>>>> recommend me some?
>>>>> 
>>>>> All of the GoWesty/Bus Depot ones sound good, but they don't really give
>>>> nay specific information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've found these but I'm not even sure they'll fit.  I know the Vanagon
>>>> ones compress to 11.75", as well.
>>>>> http://www.siraweb.com/gas-prop-c16-23835
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help is appreciated.  I'd hate to be the guy responsible for our
>>>> local Vdub mechanic getting hurt by a hatchback ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roman
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Neil2
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>>> '86 Vanagon (SaVannah)
>>> '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby)
>>> '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL)
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