

| Subject: | Re: Hatchback struts |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Thu, 30 Mar 2017 00:21:39 -0400 |
:-) They also have a roll your own page. d On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > Oh get out! > > The struts come charged and you let out the gas to adjust? > > Oh boy, that's a task filled with no second chance pressure. > > :-) > > That's my two pun sentence for the month. > > Ab > > On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:13 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: > > http://www.sgs-engineering.com/help-advice/how-do-i- > adjust-the-force-on-my-gas-strut/ > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Thanks stu, I'll look at their listings. >> >> I had found some likely sources, some marine, and surprisingly ( for me) >> companies that sell stuff for tanning beds. >> >> It's one of those searches where one gets enthusiastic then beaten down >> :-) >> >> Ab >> >> > On Mar 29, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Alistair, >> > >> > McMaster-Carr has a reducible pressure gas spring that might work. If >> not, they've got hundreds of others: https://www.mcmaster.com/#gas- >> springs/=16yx01e >> > >> > Stuart >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf Of Alistair Bell >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:46 PM >> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > Subject: Re: Hatchback struts >> > >> > You might be disappointed. With Simon's set up, the 1250N struts, it >> would hold up the hatch with tire carrier and tire in place. But when I >> added the bike carrier and the bike to the hatch it would not hold things >> up. But it was close to holding, so I moved the tire mounting position up >> about 8" and that difference in load placement in relationship to the strut >> and hinge conformation was enough to make it work. >> > >> > The original placement of the tire mount on the rack was made as low as >> possible to reduce tire coverage of the rear window but not so low as to >> cover the tail light. When I moved the location upwards I also moved it to >> the left, outboard, to reduce the tire coverage on the rear window. >> > >> > Bottom line is that you need hefty struts to hold the hatch open with a >> tire on a hatch rack. I have a tire on the hatch and my struts which are >> the stock heavy duty ones will not hold the hatch open. I have to resort to >> the tube slipped over the strut hack to hold the hatch open. >> > >> > I'm looking for another source of high force struts. >> > >> > Alistair >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@YMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> >> >> Oh I like that, OlRivrRat. I think'tt work well. If it's strong enough >> to open it on its own once unlocked then I figure it'll make a loaded hatch >> easier at least. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from someone's plumbing >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 13:50, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 1 Additional Note though ~ These Struts are the 1st Set I have >> >>> ever that would cause >> >>> >> >>> the Hatch to Lift WithOut Help once the Lock is Unlocked ~ During the >> >>> Summer I have to be >> >>> >> >>> Sure & Not have My Chin in the way when I release the Lock ~ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On 29 Mar , 2017, at 11:41 AM, OlRivrRat wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm in trouble now ~ I decided that I would go out this Morn' & >> >>>> Measure to know >> >>>> >> >>>> for sure ~ Keep in mind that it is only 50ºF this Morn' so the >> >>>> Struts are considerably >> >>>> >> >>>> weaker than on a Hot Summer Day ~ But ~ I Was Way Off ~ >> >>>> >> >>>> Went out with a 330Lb "Fish"Scale I have & only needed about 10% >> >>>> of it ~ >> >>>> >> >>>> Out on the End of the Hatch it takes 30Lbs to pull it down & @ the >> >>>> Bottom of the >> >>>> >> >>>> Window it takes 45Lbs ~ I'll do the same test this Summer & let >> >>>> YouAll know ~ >> >>>> >> >>>> There Really have been times when it has seemed to take >> >>>> everything I had >> >>>> >> >>>> to get it to go down ~ But than I Am Old ~ >> >>>> >> >>>> ORR ~ DeanB >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 29 Mar , 2017, at 10:39 AM, Neil2 wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I have about 7 new struts that look at first glance to be exactly >> >>>>> like those in the link above from GW's site. I can send you the >> >>>>> identifier if you're interested. I don't want to make any money on >> 'em. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> My friend Simon bought some 1250 N struts from Germany for the >> >>>>>> similar reason. They're great, lifts his spare tire rack and bike >> >>>>>> rack ( with tire and bike) that I made for him. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Without anything on the hatch it's hard to close. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Unfortunately the German source has dried up, but I mention it so >> >>>>>> you will know that 1250N is strong enough for a good load on hatch. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Oh, and before anyone asks, it's been almost three years now with >> >>>>>> the struts and no adverse effect noted on the hatch. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I've been looking for similar struts but not found any yet. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Alistair >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Roman Haag <romanhaag@YMAIL.COM> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I recently got a Gary Lee multipurpose rack, which has my spare, >> >>>>>>> a gas >> >>>>>> can, and a hi-lift jack on it. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I need some stronger struts and am having a hard time finding >> >>>>>>> info about >> >>>>>> them. Does anyone hear have any experience with them and could >> >>>>>> possibly recommend me some? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> All of the GoWesty/Bus Depot ones sound good, but they don't >> >>>>>>> really give >> >>>>>> nay specific information. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I've found these but I'm not even sure they'll fit. I know the >> >>>>>>> Vanagon >> >>>>>> ones compress to 11.75", as well. >> >>>>>>> http://www.siraweb.com/gas-prop-c16-23835 >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Any help is appreciated. I'd hate to be the guy responsible for >> >>>>>>> our >> >>>>>> local Vdub mechanic getting hurt by a hatchback ;) >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Roman >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Neil2 >> >>>>> '82 Diesel Westfalia (Ducky) >> >>>>> '86 Vanagon (SaVannah) >> >>>>> '08 170" 2500 Mega Roof Sprinter (Moby) >> >>>>> '90 Westfalia Subagon (SaL) >> >>>>> Fulltiming since August 2008 >> >>>>> Nunquam Pendite Divendium >> > >> > >
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