Yes indeed.

Bernie

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:37 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:

> Missed that 1 as it arrived in My Inbox addressed to Me instead of
> Vanagon@Gerry & so did not get transferred
>
> into My Vanagon.com EMs Folder ~
>
> This kind of confusion can happen when a New Thread is not started for a
> New Question ~
>
>
>
> On 4 Apr , 2017, at 10:37 PM, bernie wrote:
>
> John quite clearly asked how often he should drain and flush the cooling
> system. He hasn't changed it for 14 years!
>
> "We need facts, not opinions.   I know that some of you repair vanagons
> for a living.  How often should I drain and flush the cooling system on
> my Vanagon;  The last time my Vanagon saw new coolant was August 2003
> What would you do if you were servicing my Vanagon?"
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:34 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>         This Thread is about "Anti-Freeze opinions" > What Coolant To Use
>> ~ Not Change Intervals ~
>>
>> The Orig' Poster > Michael Magnani ~ Asked this  >
>>
>> "I'm wondering what Vanagon owners think about the name-brand pre-mixed
>> 50/50 antifreeze sold at the local auto parts stores.
>> I've been using it in my TDI VW's without any problems for many years.
>> Thanks,"
>>
>>         Not Far into the discussion the product Water Wetter was
>> suggested & That Link Should Lead Directly to
>>
>> VANAGON archives – July 2016, week 3 Topic #12 Coolant Mystery positive
>> update - WATER WETTER
>>
>> & the Posts that were related to that Thread ~
>>
>>
>> On 4 Apr , 2017, at 10:13 PM, bernie wrote:
>>
>> > I'm with you there I didn't see it either.
>> >
>> > Bernie
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Stephen Engel <sengel543@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> That link provided me with more than 200 messages. I read the ones with
>> >> coolant related subject titles. I guess I missed some thing, what's
>> Dennis'
>> >> recommended coolant change interval?
>> >> Hopefully the new Vanagon.com/archives will have a better search
>> feature?
>> >>
>> >>    On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:57 PM, OlRivrRat <
>> OlRivrRat@COMCAST.NET>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                 @ JeffP
>> >>
>> >>        A "Dennis" response is in the Archives from Just 7Mos ago ~
>> >>
>> >> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A1=ind1607c&L=vanagon#12
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 4 Apr , 2017, at 5:19 PM, Jeff Palmer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm waiting to hear from Dennis. I think he's still on his original
>> >> heads.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>> Not original heads
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:15 PM, bernie <1234bjs@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *From Go Westy*
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *Two year service (regardless of mileage):*
>> >>>> Cooling system flush
>> >>>> -Phosphate-free coolant, any brand, any color
>> >>>> -Distilled water - must be distilled
>> >>>> Brake fluid flush
>> >>>> Clutch fluid flush (manual trans only)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 2:47 PM, John Lauterbach <
>> >> john@jhl.mgacoxmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> We need facts, not opinions.  I know that some of you reapir vanagon
>> >>>>> for a living.  How often should I drain and flush the cooling
>> system on
>> >>>>> my Vanagon;  The last time my Vanagon saw new coolant was August
>> 2003
>> >>>>> What would you do if you were servicing my Vanagon?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> John
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:23 PM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 2 Apr , 2017, at 11:35 PM, Gene P wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If your cooling system is operating properly, you could be running
>> >>>>>>> apple juice or skim milk in it and the running temperature will be
>> >>>>>>> determined by which thermostat is installed.  Exotic fluids do not
>> >>>>>>> change the setting of a thermostat.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     Valid Point > To a Point ~ Let's consider this ~ If WW is able
>> >>>>>> to create a Condition that Improves Heat Transfer From Eng' Metal
>> to
>> >>>>>> Coolant & Coolant to
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Radiator Metal & Coolant to Thermostat then the Thermostat Could
>> >>>>>> Conceivably Sense Heat Changes More Quickly & Therefore Respond
>> More
>> >>>>>> Quickly to those
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Temp' Changes ~
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     But ~ Also To Be Considered > Since Our Temp'Gauges &
>> >>>>>> Temp'Sensors Only Supply Us with the Temp' of the Coolant, We can
>> Only
>> >>>>>> Assume that We
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> know the Actual Temp' of the Eng' ~ Since We Don't have PistonTop
>> or
>> >>>>>> Cylinder or Head Temp' Sensors, We just have to have Faith that the
>> >>>>>> Coolant is able
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> to give Us & The ECU accurate info with which We & The ECU can
>> develop
>> >>>>>> an Educated Guess as to the Actual Temp' Conditions present within
>> the
>> >>>>>> Eng' ~
>> >>>>>>     Let's Surmise ~ If WW Actually Lowers Heat Transfer, thereby
>> >>>>>> Leaving The Heat in the Eng'Metal & also Being LessAble to Transfer
>> >>>>>> the Heat that it is
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> able to collect to the Temp' Sensor, It Would Appear To Us, Via the
>> >>>>>> Temp'Gauge, that WW Was Indeed Keeping the Eng' Cooler when in
>> >>>>>> Actuality it Would
>> >>>>>> Only be keeping the Coolant Cooler ~
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     Yet Another Thing to Consider > The ECU makes Its Educated
>> >>>>>> Guesses as to the Conditions In & Around The Combustion Chamber, in
>> >>>>>> part, from Temp'
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Info It gets from the Coolant Temp' Sensor ~ So ~ If WW Does Alter
>> the
>> >>>>>> Heat Transfer Ability of the Coolant, Up or Down, That Temp' Info
>> >>>>>> Could Indicate to
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> the ECU that the Conditions In & Around The Combustion Chamber Are
>> Not
>> >>>>>> What They Actually Are ~ That Could Get Confusing to the ECU if
>> >>>>>> Coolant Temp
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> was Telling it it Needed to Go Rich & The O2Snsr was Telling it it
>> >>>>>> Needed to go Lean (or VisaVersa) ~
>> >>>>>>     There is a Bit More Info & Ideas about WW in the Archives @
>> >>>>>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A1=ind1607c&L=vanagon#12
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ORR ~ DeanB
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
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