Thanks Keith,  I'll have them use R 12.
Remy
85 Westy GL (Chippy)

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote:
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>  2. Van-Again getting a new store that supports many other languages
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> Date:    Fri, 7 Apr 2017 04:56:40 +0000
> From:    Keith Hughes <keithahughes@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Re: <No subject given>
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> The R-134 is definitely less effective, especially with the '85 (some '86) =
> and older A/C's. Smaller evap, single evap fan, smaller condenser. If you w=
> ere to upgrade to a larger parallel flow condenser (e.g. 16" x 22") you'd e=
> nd up with about the same performance as with R-12. Going to R-134A you'll =
> also need to flush the system to remove the mineral oil, and then use PAG o=
> r POE oil. The R-12 compressors (like Sanden SD510 or SD710) are not likely=
> to last as long with the newer oils they're not designed for, and the poor=
> er oil carrying capacity of R-134A vs R-12.=20
> 
> At this point, as long as you can get recycled R-12, there really is no dow=
> nside to keeping it R-12 (other than fewer A/C techs, and tougher supply ch=
> ain for R-12). I'm in Phoenix, and did the R-134A conversion with a stock '=
> 85 style system (mine is a Jan 1986 model Westy and had the pre '86 system)=
> . Performance really sucked. I went through several upgrade iterations (con=
> denser, compressor, TXV, etc.) until finally building a custom A/C cabinet,=
> and installing an '87 up style system with the larger evap and dual evap f=
> ans (I added one as well, but that's another story).=20
> 
> Keith Hughes
> '86 Westy GenV (Marvin)
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> Subject: vanagon Digest - 6 Apr 2017 (#2017-128)
> To: "Recipients of vanagon digests" <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Date: Thursday, April 6, 2017, 9:00 PM
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> Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thu, 6 Apr 2017
> 19:00:56 -0700
> From:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Remy <remster2@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: <No subject given>
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> I have an '85 Westfalia with Air
> Conditioning.=C2=A0  Which is best - stay with R=3D
> 12 freon or switch to R134.=C2=A0 My
> mechanic thinks I should switch but have hea=3D
> rd R 134 is not as effective AND I live
> n Arizona.=C2=A0 Thanks I value your opin=3D
> ions .
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> Remy
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> Date:    Fri, 7 Apr 2017 20:29:19 -0400
> From:    "kenneth wilford (Van-Again)" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
> Subject: Van-Again getting a new store that supports many other languages
> 
> Hey guys I know some of you speak other languages.  I only speak some
> French and very poor English.  I was wondering if some of you multilingual
> folks could have a peek at the beta of my updated site here and tell me
> what you think?
> http://vanagain.glopal.com/it-IT/
> 
> It hasn't fully launched yet and I still have a couple of days before it
> does so if you see any problems let me know.
> 
> --
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
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