

| Subject: | Re: Only 5V at Temp II sensor? |
| From: | Stephen Grisanti |
| Date: | Sat, 27 May 2017 17:23:58 -0400 |
I have bypassed bad terminals like that when the remaining connections on such a block were still good. Run the "bad" wire past both sides of the connector to new m/f spade connectors. Stephen Mobile > On May 27, 2017, at 5:15 PM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > I failed to reply all -- sorry to David for the double post. > > Also, I should add that the 67 ohms resistor is supposed to approximate the > resistance produced when the sensor senses coolant at normal operating > temperatures. More or less. > > Now once more, with feeling... > > Once Mark pointed out my mistake I disconnected the **correct** sender and > found the positive wire broken at the spade, with lots of corrosion. With > the wire stripped a little I got 9V to the brown wire's spade (tough to get > the test lead to touch it well though) and 10V when grounding to a nearby > ground strap instead. > > I hooked up the "67 ohms" resistor that I fashioned and the temp needle > moved for the first time in a long time -- slightly above dead center over > the blinkenlight, which I consider normal. > > Now I've gotta figure out how to get that orphaned spade out of the > connector, or replace the connector. The back of the spade is completely > corroded away. > > Anyhow the problem is isolated, so I think I'm well on my way. > > Thanks again. > > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 5:12 PM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks David! >> >> Once Mark pointed out my mistake I disconnected the **correct** sender and >> found the positive wire broken at the spade, with lots of corrosion. With >> the wire stripped a little I got 9V to the brown wire's spade (tough to get >> the test lead to touch it well though) and 10V when grounding to a nearby >> ground strap instead. >> >> I hooked up the "67 ohms" resistor that I fashioned and the temp needle >> moved for the first time in a long time -- slightly above dead center over >> the blinkenlight, which I consider normal. >> >> Now I've gotta figure out how to get that orphaned spade out of the >> connector, or replace the connector. The back of the spade is completely >> corroded away. >> >> Anyhow the problem is isolated, so I think I'm well on my way. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> -George >> >> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 5:03 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:45 PM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Volks, >>>> >>>> '90 water-cooled automatic camper here. >>>> >>> >>> Thank you. :) >>> >>>> >>>> My coolant temp needle stopped moving entirely some time ago. The >>>> coolant >>>> blinky light works normally (blinks initially on startup then goes out, >>>> and >>>> has recently blinked for low coolant level). >>>> >>> >>> Good. Gauge doesn't have leaky timing cap, and coolant level controller >>> is successfully simulating overheat in short pulses that activate the >>> blinker but don't materially affect the gauge itself. >>> >>>> >>>> ...which is to say I hoped to validate that the temp gauge is in working >>>> order (including the wiring to it). >>>> >>>> The first thing to do was to check that there is 10V across those wires. >>>> Instead I found there was about 4.9V. I tried with the negative lead >>>> touching a ground point instead of the brown wire, and got 5.3V. >>>> >>> >>> The ECU supplies five volts to Temp-II through an ?8132 ohm? resistor, >>> creating a voltage divider with the variable resistance of the Temp-II >>> sender. This however has nought to do wi' t'gauge -- the problem there is >>> that one of the fly rods has outta skew on t'treadle. Or more likely that >>> the sender or connector is open, of course. It's the black one around the >>> corner from the blue Temp-II sender which is concerned strictly with engine >>> operation. 265 ohms to ground should give you the bottom mark, 35 ohms the >>> beginning of overheat zone and blinking light (light threshold is around 42 >>> ohms IIRC). Grounding the sender lead should make the gauge go up like a >>> slow rocket, and if you leave it connected, start smelling hot in a minute >>> or two. No action means either a wiring problem between engine bay and >>> gauge (but not the panel connector or panel wiring since the low coolant >>> warning functions) or -- very very unlikely, the gauge heater has gone open >>> or the needle suspension has failed. >>> >>> Yrs, >>> d >>> >> >>
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