

| Subject: | Re: No Start & Sliding door handle' |
| From: | Laura Mangan |
| Date: | Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:13:21 -0400 |
I will have to check this out! Thanks George. I do hear the fuel pump. I replaced the fuel pump in March also. (well, a stellar shop in Charlotte NC did) So, i am hearing buzzing (oil light) when i put the key in the ignition, the dash is illuminated, and when i turn the key over.... I hear the fuel pump whirl, but not even the slightest attempt at a crank (turning over) I'll crawl underneath when i have time and inspect the starter. hope all is okay under there (its brand new as of March) Many thanks! Laura On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:12 AM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@gmail.com> wrote: > Laura. I just went through a no-start situation myself, and am not > mechanically experienced. The problem was the starter, and this video was > helpful in getting me familiar with the starter and how to access it: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkA1GYQnvY&t=258s > > You can see the starter wire connection at the solenoid (that Jim and Jason > mentioned) at 4:10, when it gets pulled off. Point being that if you're > are willing and able to get under your van with a flashlight -- ** never > with the van supported by only a jack ** -- whether or not that wire fell > off is something you could check for free. You can see it without removing > stuff if you're patient looking for it. Just be careful what you touch, > live wires there. > > I'm curious if you hear the fuel pump whiz when you turn the key to Start? > > -George > '90 Westy Camper Automatic > > I feel like mine could totally fall off at any moment! > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if that > > wire is at all loose. > > > > Jason > > Uberbus > > > > On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote: > > > > > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to > > turn > > > over….” > > > > > > “New starter in March.” > > > > > > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to the > > > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially after > > > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.' > > > > > > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the lock > > > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on any > car. > > > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of that > > is > > > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the battery > and > > > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can > suggest > > > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and tools > you > > > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to > > start: > > > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good auto > > > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it will > > > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps. > > > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or > > > solenoids making them intermittent. > > > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get past > > > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect. > > > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again, > > testing > > > under load. > > > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine. > > > > > > > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a used > one. > > > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go dead > > > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do it > then > > > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop? > > Warranty? > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Laura Mangan > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM > > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle' > > > > > > > > '85 1.9L Vanagon > > > > Potter Co. North Central PA > > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > My van wont start.... > > > > > > > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month ago) > Now, > > > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the battery > to > > > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay. > > > > > > > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to jump > > > start with the new battery. Nothing. > > > > > > > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make sure > > its > > > charged. Yep. No luck, once again. > > > > > > > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to > > > turn over.... > > > > > > > > New starter in March. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key > > hole. > > > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the > > > outside. > > > > > > > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what > can i > > > do? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined, > > > > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if that > > wire is at all loose. > > > > Jason > > Uberbus > > > > On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote: > > > > > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to > > turn > > > over….” > > > > > > “New starter in March.” > > > > > > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to the > > > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially after > > > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.' > > > > > > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the lock > > > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on any > car. > > > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of that > > is > > > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the battery > and > > > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can > suggest > > > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and tools > you > > > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to > > start: > > > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good auto > > > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it will > > > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps. > > > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or > > > solenoids making them intermittent. > > > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get past > > > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect. > > > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again, > > testing > > > under load. > > > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine. > > > > > > > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a used > one. > > > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go dead > > > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do it > then > > > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop? > > Warranty? > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Laura Mangan > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM > > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle' > > > > > > > > '85 1.9L Vanagon > > > > Potter Co. North Central PA > > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > My van wont start.... > > > > > > > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month ago) > Now, > > > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the battery > to > > > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay. > > > > > > > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to jump > > > start with the new battery. Nothing. > > > > > > > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make sure > > its > > > charged. Yep. No luck, once again. > > > > > > > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to > > > turn over.... > > > > > > > > New starter in March. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key > > hole. > > > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the > > > outside. > > > > > > > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what > can i > > > do? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined, > > > > > > > > Laura > > > > > >
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