

| Subject: | Re: No Start & Sliding door handle' |
| From: | George Gaudette |
| Date: | Mon, 12 Jun 2017 12:45:11 -0400 |
Hi Laura, It came to my attention that the link I sent only worked temporarily. Here is the URL YouTube provides for sharing: https://youtu.be/9HkA1GYQnvY (title: "VW T3: Westfalia starter removal", posted by "Thomas EXOVCDS") Good luck! George On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@gmail.com> wrote: > > I will have to check this out! Thanks George. I do hear the fuel pump. I replaced the fuel pump in March also. (well, a stellar shop in Charlotte NC did) > > So, i am hearing buzzing (oil light) when i put the key in the ignition, the dash is illuminated, and when i turn the key over.... I hear the fuel pump whirl, but not even the slightest attempt at a crank (turning over) > > I'll crawl underneath when i have time and inspect the starter. hope all is okay under there (its brand new as of March) > > Many thanks! > > Laura > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:12 AM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Laura. I just went through a no-start situation myself, and am not >> mechanically experienced. The problem was the starter, and this video was >> helpful in getting me familiar with the starter and how to access it: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkA1GYQnvY&t=258s >> >> You can see the starter wire connection at the solenoid (that Jim and Jason >> mentioned) at 4:10, when it gets pulled off. Point being that if you're >> are willing and able to get under your van with a flashlight -- ** never >> with the van supported by only a jack ** -- whether or not that wire fell >> off is something you could check for free. You can see it without removing >> stuff if you're patient looking for it. Just be careful what you touch, >> live wires there. >> >> I'm curious if you hear the fuel pump whiz when you turn the key to Start? >> >> -George >> '90 Westy Camper Automatic >> >> I feel like mine could totally fall off at any moment! >> >> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if that >> > wire is at all loose. >> > >> > Jason >> > Uberbus >> > >> > On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote: >> > >> > > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to >> > turn >> > > over….” >> > > >> > > “New starter in March.” >> > > >> > > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to the >> > > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially after >> > > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.' >> > > >> > > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the lock >> > > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All done. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on any car. >> > > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of that >> > is >> > > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the battery and >> > > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can suggest >> > > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and tools you >> > > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to >> > start: >> > > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good auto >> > > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it will >> > > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps. >> > > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or >> > > solenoids making them intermittent. >> > > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get past >> > > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect. >> > > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again, >> > testing >> > > under load. >> > > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine. >> > > > >> > > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a used one. >> > > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go dead >> > > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do it then >> > > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop? >> > Warranty? >> > > > >> > > > Dennis >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dennis >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> > Behalf >> > > Of Laura Mangan >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM >> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle' >> > > > >> > > > '85 1.9L Vanagon >> > > > Potter Co. North Central PA >> > > > >> > > > Hi Folks, >> > > > >> > > > My van wont start.... >> > > > >> > > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month ago) Now, >> > > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the battery to >> > > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay. >> > > > >> > > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to jump >> > > start with the new battery. Nothing. >> > > > >> > > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make sure >> > its >> > > charged. Yep. No luck, once again. >> > > > >> > > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to >> > > turn over.... >> > > > >> > > > New starter in March. >> > > > >> > > > Any thoughts? >> > > > >> > > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key >> > hole. >> > > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the >> > > outside. >> > > > >> > > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what can i >> > > do? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks. >> > > > >> > > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined, >> > > > >> > > > Laura >> > > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if that >> > wire is at all loose. >> > >> > Jason >> > Uberbus >> > >> > On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote: >> > >> > > “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to >> > turn >> > > over….” >> > > >> > > “New starter in March.” >> > > >> > > Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached to the >> > > solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially after >> > > messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.' >> > > >> > > Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the lock >> > > cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All done. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on any car. >> > > Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of that >> > is >> > > to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the battery and >> > > other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can suggest >> > > many different things to look at but without some knowledge and tools you >> > > are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places to >> > start: >> > > > Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good auto >> > > parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it will >> > > work when you ask it to produce 200 amps. >> > > > Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or >> > > solenoids making them intermittent. >> > > > Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get past >> > > these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect. >> > > > Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again, >> > testing >> > > under load. >> > > > Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine. >> > > > >> > > > Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a used one. >> > > Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go dead >> > > especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do it then >> > > consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop? >> > Warranty? >> > > > >> > > > Dennis >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dennis >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> > Behalf >> > > Of Laura Mangan >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM >> > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > > > Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle' >> > > > >> > > > '85 1.9L Vanagon >> > > > Potter Co. North Central PA >> > > > >> > > > Hi Folks, >> > > > >> > > > My van wont start.... >> > > > >> > > > All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month ago) Now, >> > > it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the battery to >> > > NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay. >> > > > >> > > > So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to jump >> > > start with the new battery. Nothing. >> > > > >> > > > So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make sure >> > its >> > > charged. Yep. No luck, once again. >> > > > >> > > > The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try to >> > > turn over.... >> > > > >> > > > New starter in March. >> > > > >> > > > Any thoughts? >> > > > >> > > > Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the key >> > hole. >> > > > So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from the >> > > outside. >> > > > >> > > > Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) what can i >> > > do? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks. >> > > > >> > > > Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined, >> > > > >> > > > Laura >> > > >> > > >
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