I have always had my starters alternators (and other non VW motors - plow,
winch) rebuilt by a shop in Rhode Island - Ace amrature. They do awesome
work and always warranty with a minimum of 1 year. Never had an issue with
anything they have rebuilt. I guess it depends a lot on the shop and the
quality of parts but I have found their work to be superior to most
aftermarket products I have tried.

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:01 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Many (Many) years ago I had a customer with a Rabbit Diesel and the e-mode
> automatic. Starter replacement was a task! I can't remember how many times
> I had to deal with that starter even adding a boost relay etc. So even 15
> years ago rebuilds sucked. Back then you would also always cut new drums
> and rotors before installing.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Jim Felder
> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 8:47 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Bosch "premium" rebuilt starter appears to be built from
> non-Bosch parts!?!
>
> I presume you guys are talking about your experiences with gas-engine
> rebuilt Bosch starters, but it was the same with the diesel type for a long
> time. It got to the point where it almost wasn't worth installing them. I
> would take any I found be rebuilt at a good local auto electric repair
> shop, but even then where were parts they could't get anymore. At one point
> I caved in and ordered an expensive Bosch rebuild. It lasted 18 months. By
> this time, knowing what was inevitably coming, I had already traded for a
> couple of used OEM starters to be rebuilt. When I took them to the shop,
> the owner suggested I look at one of his gear reduction starters. It was a
> lot cheaper than the Bosch rebuild, and it works better. Not a single
> hiccup in the year or so it's been on the car.
>
> It's just a matter of time before these are available for gas vanagons, no
> doubt. Keep your eyes open for them. They are smaller and thus easier to
> install, too.
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:23 AM David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > I spent a long time chasing this down years ago.  In the US under
> > Federal law, in automotive usage the terms "rebuilt" and
> > "remanufactured" are legally identical.  They both mean broken items
> > repaired, wear items renewed or not at rebuilder's discretion.  And
> > "factory rebuilt" means rebuilt in a factory.  Any factory.
> >
> > In machine tool industry (not codified in law so far as I know) "rebuilt"
> > means brought back to original condition as it was when first built;
> > and "remanufactured" means brought to condition as though it were
> > built today, with all upgrades and specification changes that had
> > occurred in the mean time.
> >
> > Yrs,
> > d
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've always been curious about the difference between "rebuilt" and
> > > "remanufactured".
> > >
> >
>