

| Subject: | Re: No Start & Sliding door handle' |
| From: | Sean Garrett |
| Date: | Sun, 9 Jul 2017 15:07:32 -0700 |
Yes a very good chance. Replace the lock cylinder and the electronic piece attached to it. If I recall correctly the electronic piece is the part with the spring in it. I might be wrong, however it's a maintenance item to replace them both as they wear out. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > Hey Folks, > > So i will admit that farming keeps me entirely too busy. > I have not done much for investigating my NO START situation. > Yesterday, I tried to start it, just for the heck of it, and it occurred to > me , that it could be the lock cylinder. (i think thats what its called, > when the key is placed and turned to start the van) > > I had some plugs replaced in there a while ago, and the mechanic told me > that it may fail soon, it looks a little sketchy. > > But, anyway, what i noticed when i turned the key yesterday, is that it > goes from OFF position over to lights up on dashboard, but then it > seemingly stops. I fell like i remember there being a little resistance, at > which point a firm twist would crank the engine over. Now, nothing. the key > just turns all the way to a firm stop position, with no attempt to turn > over. > > > Is there a chance it could the lock cylinder, and how can i possibly > troubleshoot this? > > Thanks > > Clueless as usual > > Laura > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks George, I'll check it out. >> >> Haven't had time yet. But I'll let you know how it goes. >> >>> On Jun 12, 2017 12:45 PM, "George Gaudette" <gcgaudette@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Laura, >>> >>> It came to my attention that the link I sent only worked temporarily. >>> Here is the URL YouTube provides for sharing: >>> https://youtu.be/9HkA1GYQnvY >>> (title: "VW T3: Westfalia starter removal", posted by "Thomas EXOVCDS") >>> >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> George >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Laura Mangan <laurakmangan@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I will have to check this out! Thanks George. I do hear the fuel pump. >>> I replaced the fuel pump in March also. (well, a stellar shop in Charlotte >>> NC did) >>>> >>>> So, i am hearing buzzing (oil light) when i put the key in the >>> ignition, the dash is illuminated, and when i turn the key over.... I hear >>> the fuel pump whirl, but not even the slightest attempt at a crank (turning >>> over) >>>> >>>> I'll crawl underneath when i have time and inspect the starter. hope >>> all is okay under there (its brand new as of March) >>>> >>>> Many thanks! >>>> >>>> Laura >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:12 AM, George Gaudette <gcgaudette@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Laura. I just went through a no-start situation myself, and am not >>>>> mechanically experienced. The problem was the starter, and this video >>> was >>>>> helpful in getting me familiar with the starter and how to access it: >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkA1GYQnvY&t=258s >>>>> >>>>> You can see the starter wire connection at the solenoid (that Jim and >>> Jason >>>>> mentioned) at 4:10, when it gets pulled off. Point being that if >>> you're >>>>> are willing and able to get under your van with a flashlight -- ** >>> never >>>>> with the van supported by only a jack ** -- whether or not that wire >>> fell >>>>> off is something you could check for free. You can see it without >>> removing >>>>> stuff if you're patient looking for it. Just be careful what you >>> touch, >>>>> live wires there. >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious if you hear the fuel pump whiz when you turn the key to >>> Start? >>>>> >>>>> -George >>>>> '90 Westy Camper Automatic >>>>> >>>>> I feel like mine could totally fall off at any moment! >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if >>> that >>>>>> wire is at all loose. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> Uberbus >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try >>> to >>>>>> turn >>>>>>> over….” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “New starter in March.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached >>> to the >>>>>>> solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially >>> after >>>>>>> messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the >>> lock >>>>>>> cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All >>> done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes < >>> d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on >>> any car. >>>>>>> Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of >>> that >>>>>> is >>>>>>> to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the >>> battery and >>>>>>> other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can >>> suggest >>>>>>> many different things to look at but without some knowledge and >>> tools you >>>>>>> are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places >>> to >>>>>> start: >>>>>>>> Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good >>> auto >>>>>>> parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it >>> will >>>>>>> work when you ask it to produce 200 amps. >>>>>>>> Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or >>>>>>> solenoids making them intermittent. >>>>>>>> Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get >>> past >>>>>>> these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect. >>>>>>>> Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again, >>>>>> testing >>>>>>> under load. >>>>>>>> Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a >>> used one. >>>>>>> Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go >>> dead >>>>>>> especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do >>> it then >>>>>>> consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop? >>>>>> Warranty? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Laura Mangan >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM >>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>> Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> '85 1.9L Vanagon >>>>>>>> Potter Co. North Central PA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My van wont start.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month >>> ago) Now, >>>>>>> it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the >>> battery to >>>>>>> NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to >>> jump >>>>>>> start with the new battery. Nothing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make >>> sure >>>>>> its >>>>>>> charged. Yep. No luck, once again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even >>> try to >>>>>>> turn over.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New starter in March. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the >>> key >>>>>> hole. >>>>>>>> So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from >>> the >>>>>>> outside. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) >>> what can i >>>>>>> do? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jason <uberhare@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In usually give the crimp a bit of squeeze while I'm changing one if >>> that >>>>>> wire is at all loose. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> Uberbus >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017 8:01 PM, "Jim Arnott" <jrasite@eoni.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even try >>> to >>>>>> turn >>>>>>> over….” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “New starter in March.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Me? I’d look first that the wire from the key switch is attached >>> to the >>>>>>> solenoid. Mine has been known to fall off on occasion. Especially >>> after >>>>>>> messing with it. “New starter in March.” indicates ‘messed with.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Handle - Get another one. There’s one small screw that holds the >>> lock >>>>>>> cylinder. Remove it, exchange lock cylinders, replace it. All >>> done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dennis Haynes < >>> d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There can be a number of reasons for a "no crank" situation on >>> any car. >>>>>>> Having a known good battery is the first place to "start"! Part of >>> that >>>>>> is >>>>>>> to have a meter and know how to use it to test voltage at the >>> battery and >>>>>>> other places while trying to crank it. From remote folks here can >>> suggest >>>>>>> many different things to look at but without some knowledge and >>> tools you >>>>>>> are simply replacing parts until it runs. So here are some places >>> to >>>>>> start: >>>>>>>> Battery, to know it is good it needs to be load tested. A good >>> auto >>>>>>> parts store may have one. Having 12 volts at rest does not mean it >>> will >>>>>>> work when you ask it to produce 200 amps. >>>>>>>> Starter- it is common for the Bosch units to have bad brushes or >>>>>>> solenoids making them intermittent. >>>>>>>> Ignition switch and wiring. Many have added boost relays to get >>> past >>>>>>> these problems. If automatic the neutral switch is also suspect. >>>>>>>> Battery and ground cables. They can look good and not be! Again, >>>>>> testing >>>>>>> under load. >>>>>>>> Horror of horrors! Something wrong with engine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since it ran before it sat the battery is suspect and so is a >>> used one. >>>>>>> Batteries don’t tolerate neglect and letting them discharge and go >>> dead >>>>>>> especially in winter will destroy them. If new battery doesn’t do >>> it then >>>>>>> consider you may have a bad starter. Was it installed at a shop? >>>>>> Warranty? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>>> Of Laura Mangan >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 4:35 PM >>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>> Subject: No Start & Sliding door handle' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> '85 1.9L Vanagon >>>>>>>> Potter Co. North Central PA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My van wont start.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All was well when i last drove it (admittedly, almost a month >>> ago) Now, >>>>>>> it wont start. I tried to jump start it, And no luck. took the >>> battery to >>>>>>> NAPA, and turns out, one of the cells or something, is fried. Okay. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, i have another newish battery, i try that... No luck. Try to >>> jump >>>>>>> start with the new battery. Nothing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, i take the battery out, put it on a trickle charger to make >>> sure >>>>>> its >>>>>>> charged. Yep. No luck, once again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The dash is lighting up, when i turn the key, it doesn't even >>> try to >>>>>>> turn over.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New starter in March. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also..... My exterior sliding door handle broke off beyond the >>> key >>>>>> hole. >>>>>>>> So, locking mechanism is functional, but i cannot open it from >>> the >>>>>>> outside. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Short of replacing the entire unit (and getting another key) >>> what can i >>>>>>> do? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hopeless and not even a slight bit mechanically inclined, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>
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