

| Subject: | Re: "sticky" new Gowesty throttle body |
| From: | Andrew R. |
| Date: | Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:08:31 -0700 |
Just an update. I pulled the throttle body to investigate the throttle position switch that wasn't clicking when moved off of the idle position. I adjusted it and reinstalled the TB. The van seems to be running as is should now, but I've only had a chance to drive it once on a colder morning since it's not a daily driver. I also got feedback from Gowesty confirming that my symptoms pointed towards a out of spec TPS. They offered to ship me a replacement throttle body, but I'd already done the work on the one I had. Thanks for the help, everyone. Andrew Portland, OR On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > I suggested the cable mostly because a difference in adjustment could now > be causing a bad spot in the cable to be apparent. Also, look underneath > and check if the cable sheath is separating form that bracket underneath. > That is another palce where the cable can hang up. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > *From:* Andrew R. [mailto:a.richar@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, October 6, 2017 6:33 PM > > *To:* Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > *Subject:* Re: "sticky" new Gowesty throttle body > > > > Thanks, Dennis, but I didn't have this specific issue with my old TB. I > swapped in the new once because the idle screw adjustment didn't work on > the old one. It also required effort to open the throttle, indicating the > shaft may have been out of alignment/loose. Someone on the samba suggests > checking the temp II sensor, but my symptoms don't see to fit that of a > failing sensor. Never the less, I'll check its resistance and consider a > new throttle cable. > > -Andrew > > > > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Could be you were having problems related to the cable with the old > throttle body and it was miss diagnosed. Could also be related to how it > was adjusted. Proper adjustment is with the accelerator pedal all the way > down there should still be some room for the throttle to move open just a > tad more. You should not be able to step on the pedal and bottom out the > full open stop. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > *From:* Andrew R. [mailto:a.richar@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, October 6, 2017 10:56 AM > *To:* Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > *Subject:* Re: "sticky" new Gowesty throttle body > > > > All seemed to be functioning as it should after disconnecting cable and > checking TB for any hang ups. Van sat in the 60-70deg parking lot at work > and then I drove 125 miles to the beach and never had the issue. Woke up > this morning to a crisp 40 deg and high idle had returned. Disconnected > the cable and tried to get the TB to repeat the symptoms and couldn't do > it. I have the stock tension spring attached from the plenum to the TB. > Accelerater cable has never been changed in the 14 years I've owned the > van so I may swap in my spare, but I'm troubled by the coincidence of the > cable now being bad right after my TB was changed out. Would a vacuum leak > when cold cause this? > > > > Thanks everybody! > > On Thursday, October 5, 2017, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Unless there is a defect or somehow the housing is distorted it is not > likely the problem is the throttle body. I would replace the return spring > with the correct one. It is common for the cable to fail in ways that will > prevent full return of the throttle. The inner cable can fray causing it to > hang up and the outer jacket can have separations causing it to expand and > act like a spring opening the throttle. I would begin by checking the > adjustment at both ends and leaving some extra slack. If you don’t remember > when the cable assembly was last changed it is probably time. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [ > Subject: "sticky" new Gowesty throttle body > > Hi all, > > Have a couple hundred miles on the this unit now. Initial feedback was > great until this morning. > > http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?id=24718 > > I experienced slow or no return on the TB upon letting off the gas on the > freeway. Go to shift from 3rd to 4th and the RPMs remained steady in the > 3-3.5k range through the shift. If I left the van in gear and slowed down > via braking to 2K RPM or thereabouts, the idle would return to normal upon > depressing the clutch. Let off the accelerator while cruising at 3k RPM and > I could tell the van was not decelerating as it should be. Depress the > clutch pedal and RPMs did not drop to idle levels. TB was not closing. > > Thoughts? I'm wondering if the original tension spring isn't up to the > task and needs to be bent/shortened some to increase return force on the TB. > Never had this issue before the new TB. > > 87 GL w/ Rocky Jennings 2.2L motor. > > thanks, > Andrew > > >
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