

| Subject: | Re: last tire question (from me)(14x6 VW alu wheel) |
| From: | Karl Ploessl |
| Date: | Sat, 28 Oct 2017 16:50:27 -0400 |
hindsight. And yes, you advised a few times to go larger. Karl. On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > The center caps for the alloy wheels should fit. The trick is up front > they have to be on the wheel before it is installed on the vehicle. If not > it would have been easier to purchase a set of later bearing caps. For not > too much more I could have set you up with a set of 16 or 17 inch wheels > and some nice performance tires. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > *From:* Karl Ploessl [mailto:karl.ploessl@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:52 PM > *To:* Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry. vanagon. com <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > > *Subject:* Re: last tire question (from me)(14x6 VW alu wheel) > > > > so finally got my tires mounted. Decided to go with Hankook RA18 195R-14C > (Vredestein Comtrac All Season are not available anymore and new production > might be in spring 2018). Got Carat wheels (VW 14 x 6) used and thought all > is well. BUT no. Turns out that the lips of the grease caps on the front > did not clear the hub of the wheels (that's on AC '81). Oh well. Shop > grounded the lips down and could mount them. So altogether: $440.00 for > tires, $100 + $80.00 for shipping for rims, centercaps (4X $16.95), $83 for > mounting etc and $220.00 for grinding lips (labor). A grand total of > $990.80. Expensive endeavour. Looking back maybe 15 inch would have been > better? But my Agilis 61 lasted 15 years and they had bad cracks now > (looked scary after I discovered them). > > > > Karl. > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > Some things based on knowledge and experiences. Especially when it comes > to tire applications and designs. Particularly with front heavy and front > wheel drive vehicles the "wisdom" was the better tires go on the front. > Depending on circumstances there can be some advantages. Usually though the > idea was put the better tires up front since they will usually wear faster. > Lets' face it, is we start off with a new set and we do regular rotations, > at the first rotation the worn more front tires will go on the back. Part > of the concept with proper rotation is to keep the wear difference to a > point that it is negligible. > > The change with putting the better tires on the rear has more to do with > sudden loss of traction then emergency maneuvers. Hydroplaning or > unexpected loss of rear control at speeds will often result in a spin out > which at high speeds on congested roads often means a multicar wreck. As > for emergency maneuvers or "handling" characteristics things have already > gone wrong at the point this is used and usually the root cause is someone > doing something really wrong or losing control. > > Many states have added tire replacements to the law books. The rules can > get a little complicated. Some consider remaining tread depth and the > difference in depth between the oil and new tire pair. While not likely > that anyone will inspect your tires and take you out of service, in the > event of a serious accident one should expect that all vehicles involved > will be impounded and investigated for their role in the event. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Karl Ploessl > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 7:54 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: last tire question (from me)(14x6 VW alu wheel) > > interesting. Just browsing my Bentley 80 - 91/Vehicle Care, page 18: "The > tires with the deepest tread should always be mounted on the front tires". > > Karl. > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Dug Smith <dug@dugbert.com> wrote: > > > Really? 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Is there a > >> particular reason you are doing the opposite? > >> > >> Back in the day, I was taught to do like you. The reasoning was that > >> the greater stopping power being on the rear prevented the rear > >> overrunning the front when in an emergency stop. But the > >> recommendations I read now say that empirical evidence is that in > >> serious accidents, poorer tires on the front is often the cause. > >> > >> I'm not saying this as an expert. I'm just repeating what I get from > >> those who claim to be. > >> > > toodle pip, > > -- > > Dug Smith | Terry Pratchett: It's almost > > (mailto:dug@dugbert.com) | impossible to ride a rock and roll > > (https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dugbert.com&data=02%7C01%7Csnuggle.pants%40HOTMAIL.COM% > 7Cd5271bb0394948ada7f808d51427fa34%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa > aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636437084289415183&sdata=3qRk6%2F6ehGcdfMD20aGoEdn9% > 2BoiucJvgZrQmzZDcnjU%3D&reserved=0) | motorbike and stay on for three > verses. > > > > >
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