There are 2 engines that came in the VW Van's from the factory,  type 1 which is the upright Beetle engine and type 4 which is the Porsche designed pancake style from 411 series sedans.  The Type 4 was used in the Porsche 911.
The type 1 came from 1100 to 1600 cc's and the type 4 was 1700-2000 cc's.  The type 4 changeover was in 1972 models.

GregM

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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: 1971 on Bring a Trailer for sale

Yes, but VW came out w/ a pancake engine in the early 60’s for their Type 3 cars such as Squarebacks, Notches, Fastbacks, etc.

> On May 1, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> The later version better known as the "pancake" engine or configuration.
> As Jim said, they
> are all flat 4 engines.   The earlier better known as the "upright"
> configuration.  The change
> to the pancake engine came in later 1971 or 1972 there abouts....
> 
> Steven
> 91 Westy
> 
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I **think** "upright engine" refers to the fan layout (vertical fan and
>> blower housing) and not the cylinder layout (flat four for all VW
>> air-cooled). I know my 69 had the "traditional" layout with the vertical
>> fan attached to an alternator, like a beetle. Later buses had the flat fan.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:27 AM ddbjorkman@verizon.net <
>> ddbjorkman@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> There's a flat four in this beast, according to the seller.  A
>>> replacement, no doubt.
>>> 
>>> Dave B.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@NBNET.NB.CA>
>>> To: vanagon <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2018 12:05 pm
>>> Subject: Re: 1971 on Bring a Trailer for sale
>>> 
>>> One of my favourite bread box years …. you still have the upright engine,
>>> but have disk brakes on the front.
>>> 
>>>> On 30-Apr-2018, at 12:09, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
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