

| Subject: | Re: Electrical puzzle |
| From: | Julianna Thoennes |
| Date: | Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:01:33 -0700 |
I had this happen once. Turns out I had something small stuck up under the brake handle, and I couldn’t see it till I took the shroud off. You have probably done this, but thought I would mention it! Julianna 1991 VW Vanagon Westfalia (Ophelia) On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:15 PM vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net> wrote: > The problem is likely up front, perhaps with either the Westy fridge > relay and/or a GoWesty style aux battery relay. If his van has either of > those then a simple wiring change is probably needed. Those relays are > often installed with their ground connection wired to circuit #50 of the > starter solenoid. This works fine with a stock starter setup but can > conflict when the starter setup is modified. So moving 1 wire up front > will likely fix it in this case. Let me know if this applies to his van > and I can elaborate. > > Mark > > > OlRivrRat wrote: > > On behalf of a friend who is a fairly new Syncro Owner & 1st > time Vanagon Owner ~ > > > >> I recently had starter trouble and changed it to a TDI unit with > adapter plate. while I was at it I put a starter relay in. Starts great, > seams to run fine. FYI That was a pain in he ass to get in there ... small > spaces. among other problems I had to butcher the plastic servo for the > diff lock to get it to fit with the new starter. > >> > >> However, now my brake warning is half on. it is dim, less bright then > if I turn it on for real with the parking brake. It is only on when the > engine is running. If the key is in the on position, but the engine not > started the light works correctly. > >> > >> - I have thoroughly tested the brake fluid level switch (and then > disconnected it) > >> - I have thoroughly tested the parking break switch > >> - Starter and Engine seam to be working great > >> > >> study of the bentley Manuel as well as probing with my multimeter I > have found that the brake warning module is connected to: > >> 1) Brown/yellow: brake fluid sense switch and parking brake switch > (same pin) . 2.5V. 0V when parking brake is on. > >> 2) Red/Black: #50 starter circuit. 0V when not started, 2.5V when > started and light is half-on. 12V when starting. > >> 3) Black: 12V > >> 4) Brown: GND > >> 5) Yellow/Red: some seat belt stuff I have not looked at closely. > >> > >> I also noted that #50 goes to starter, digifant, idle-control, brake > warning light module, and ignition switch. > >> > >> from the forums I found the following suggestions > >> 1) bad circuit #50 connection to starter::: I took everything apart and > tightened and cleaned and redid both this and the alternator connection at > the starter. > >> 2) bad ignition switch :::: I had a new spare. no change > >> 3) brake light switch error (master cylinder)::: on this year, these > are 2-pole switches and there is no connection to the brake warning light. > it goes only to the brake lights. > >> 4) bad grounds ::: well I tried everything I could think of, including > using jumper cables to add extra grounding to the motor near the alternator > and near the digifant. no change > >> > >> So back to the warning module in the dash board... I decided to probe > the voltages there. Is 2.5V the correct voltage for signal #50 when the > engine is running ? > > > -- Julianna 1990 VW Vanagon Westfalia with Tiico Conversion (The Rastafalia) 1988 VW Vanagon (James) 1985 VW Vanagon Weekender (as yet unnamed) 1991 VW Vanagon Westfalia automatic (as yet unnamed) Yes, I bought two more vans!
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