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I took the starter out and spun the engine by hand as far as it would go.
Other than some shiny teeth, probably from the starter misalignment, I
didn't see any major damage.  The ring gear is pretty hefty.  How can I see
the rest of the ring gear and what would damage that would stop engine
rotation look like?

Tom Stone, temporarily in Florida

On June 22, 2018 14:19:25 Tom Stone <tstone8359@aol.com> wrote:

> I took the plugs out and tried to turn the engine by hand in both
> directions.  It stopped in the same places.  I removed or disconnected all
> of the components connected to the engine yesterday.  They all spun freely,
> but the engine would not.  I will pull the starter off again and inspect
> the ring gear.  Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Tom Stone, temporarily in Florida
>
> On June 22, 2018 14:00:55 "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you using your hands on the pulley (or belt) to turn over the engine,
>> which should be fairly easy with plugs out, or the starter? If you can turn
>> the engine around fully by hand but not with the starter, you have a badly
>> damaged ring gear on the torque converter.  Probably happened when the
>> starter mount was broken due to misalignment.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of Dennis
>> Haynes
>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 10:35 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Engine Puzzlememt
>>
>> Short bolt bottom of starter?
>>
>> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>>
>> From: Tom Stone<mailto:tstone8359@aol.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 12:22 PM
>> To: Dennis Haynes<mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com<mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
>> Subject: RE: Engine Puzzlememt
>>
>> Thanks Dennis and Jim.  I pulled the spark plugs and there were no fluids
>> inside the cylinders.  Manually turned engine to stop point in both
>> directions.  It stops in the same places.  I checked all three torque
>> converter bolts.  All seem tight.  Going to remove some exhaust pieces to
>> verify.
>>
>> Since the last change made to the engine was the installation of the starter
>> long bolt, I am looking for some kind of obstruction in that area.
>>
>> Thanks for your always helpful suggestions.
>>
>> Tom Stone, temporarily in Florida.
>>
>>
>>
>> On June 21, 2018 19:08:09 Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Look for a loose torque converter bolt. One of the three between converter
>> and flex plate or something fell in there. Also, if multiple tries to crank
>> engine the cylinders could be locked up with gasoline. Remove the spark
>> plugs and check.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Tom Stone<mailto:tstone8359@AOL.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:01 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Subject: Engine Puzzlememt
>>
>>
>>
>> Working on my son's '91 Westy Automatic. New engine from the guy that took
>> over Boston Bob's business. It was installed and running. The starter had
>> been installed with only the short bolt which had loosened. The starter lost
>> ground and would only work intermittently. Then the bolt ear broke. I got a
>> new starter and the long bolt and installed it with both bolts. Now the
>> engine will only rotate to a certain point and stop. I can manually turn the
>> engine backwards and it stops turning at just before the stop point. I took
>> the starter off and ran it. I took the belts off the P/S pump, the
>> alternator and the water pump (A/C not connected) and they all turn freely.
>> I took the valve covers off and without being able to rotate the engine,
>> visually checked for a valve stem in each keeper. I am at a loss for what to
>> look at next and what might have happened.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Stone, temporarily in FL where it is hot!