

| Subject: | Re: Front heater won't give heat, workin on it. |
| From: | Jim. Felder |
| Date: | Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:44:46 -0500 |
That certainly points to a heater valve. Do you have a short piece of hose connector that would allow you to remove the valve and put the two ends together. If still no heat, you've got a bad stoppage somewhere. Jim On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:02 PM thewestyman <zolo@foxinternet.net> wrote: > I was working on it doing the following. > > After running the engine little over 2000 rpm, doing the bleeding > procedure > without success to have heat, noticed the reservoire getting more and more > full. > Stopped, waited to cool down to open the cap to change it for a new one. > After that started again, yet when I finished, I still had no heat. > Waited too cool again. > I had an idea; how about looking into the heater core supply lines and see > if there is any coolant? Took the glove compartment out, took the center > piece out to get to the hoses that work in the circulating system. > I found them totally empty. After doing correct procedure of bleeding. > So, I started filling up the hoses, pinching them off when full. And > filled > the heater core with coolant also, using a small plug on one end that I > removed to let air out, but plugged in when full. > Replace the hoses onto the full, or almost full, heater core. Did the > procedure again and found no heat again. > That's how the work is standing now. > > Zoltan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim. Felder > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:35 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Front heater won't give heat > > The Libby Bong is a great device. But every driver should know how to > properly bleed a Vanagon with their "bare hands." You never know when, > where nor why you will have to do it. You may not have your usual tools > with you. > > Jim > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:39 PM Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > You are using a mini-Libby Bong method: > > https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/archive/index.php/o-t--t-234192--.html > > (unfortunately, the photos are gone, check other "Libby Bong" posts on > The > > Samba for photos.) The Libby Bong is a 1 1/2" ABS pipe with a plumbing > > reducer to connect to the expansion tank in place of the cap. To avoid > > coolant flowing out of the pipe when removed, there is a 1/2" vinyl tube > > that goes into a hole near the bottom that acts as a drain went the top > of > > the tube is lowered. > > > > If you are filling back though the cap that would be very slow, make a > > Libby Bong instead. > > > > Stuart > > > > I do the bleeding a little differently. Check it out if it's any good. > > > > Fill up the pressure tank as much as I can, engine running idle, put cap > > back on. > > Disconnect at the pressure tank the hose that goes to the bleed line, > plug > > the bleed line and connect a yard long hose to the disconnected one, keep > > it vertical, have a funnel in it,open radiator bolt, keep on filling up > > the > > system with coolant until it comes out on the top of the radiator. Take > > the yard long vertical hose off, reconnect the disconnected hose to the > > bleeding line. Finished. > > > > Now, because the funnel is higher than the heater core, which is the > > highest part of the system, I assume the core is full because the heater > > hose is not closed by the thermostat. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Zoltan > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim. Felder > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 8:53 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Front heater won't give heat > > > > You don't need to do anything with the hose coming out of the heater > core. > > It won't do you any good as you can't use the connections to raise the > > coolant level, only to drain and lose it! You need to follow the > procedure > > in the Bentley or the many variations written up on the Internet. They > all > > involve getting the engine warm enough to open the thermostat, and > keeping > > an eye on the tank level. After the car is warm--and with the heater > valve > > wide open--loosen the bleed bolt from the top of the radiator. If you > have > > a 2.1 you have a bleed valve on the thermostat housing that comes into > > play > > as well. Then you rev the engine to about 2000 with a wooden wedge, run > to > > the front and back the bleed bolt out until you get a strong hiss of air, > > or else solid coolant--not a mix of coolant and air. You may have to > > remove > > the bolt all the way. Best to have someone else back in the back to keep > > an > > eye on the level in the tank, because this is the point where it falls a > > lot as the upper parts of the system are suddenly being filled by the > > action of the water pump. When the top of the radiator is warm to the > > touch > > and a solid stream of coolant is coming out of the bleed hole, tighten > the > > bolt back down, final fill the tank, put the cap back on the tank and cut > > the revs back to idle. A couple of cool-down/heat up cycles on short > trips > > should finish the task as a properly-working system draws coolant in from > > the overflow tank as any trapped air bubbles cool and contract. > > > > If your car doesn't respond as expected, then something is not right. > > > > Jim > > > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:31 AM Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> > wrote: > > > > > … and here I thought they only ever stuck open … in July :-| > > > > > > > > > > On 22-Aug-2018, at 12:19, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > > > > > are you sure that the heater valve is not stuck closed? > > > > > > >
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