

| Subject: | Re: breather tower |
| From: | Steven Shelton |
| Date: | Sun, 20 Jan 2019 14:28:33 -0500 |
I just assumed the rubber got hard and broke after 300,000 miles (on two engines) and, since I have no idea what the thing actually does, guessed that high miles and the poor seal of the rubber lead to build-up of carbon. Ignorance is bliss, at least for a while. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 11:11 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > What did you do to fix the carbon problem? That is not from a properly > running healthy engine using good oil. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of > Steven Shelton > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 8:04 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: breather tower > > In addition to the seal at the bottom, there is a rubber seal at the top, > under the part that looks like a removable cap. Carbon can build up around > this seal and/or it can split (I cut my old one open and posted a picture > here: ( > > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesamba.com%2Fvw%2Fforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D8756021%26highlight%3D%238756021&data=02%7C01%7C%7C711e5c2c746448a5b36b08d67ed7ea58%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835863145738330&sdata=4Hh8z1%2FuR4kL7fQKy0KTDsIqNPFlC54DKwFCKkfCFVQ%3D&reserved=0 > ). > > < > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail%26utm_term%3Dicon&data=02%7C01%7C%7C711e5c2c746448a5b36b08d67ed7ea58%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835863145738330&sdata=Iy9KKDqrVmiK6B%2F5Tn%2FiZtn6B9tIZfBjF9jQN%2B8tKcA%3D&reserved=0 > > > Virus-free. > > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C711e5c2c746448a5b36b08d67ed7ea58%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835863145738330&sdata=3UOQIX1wC4d5Q%2FlPw0MDVZnySBeENNw%2F5XBIROd2aWI%3D&reserved=0 > < > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail%26utm_term%3Dlink&data=02%7C01%7C%7C711e5c2c746448a5b36b08d67ed7ea58%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835863145738330&sdata=VqLDSTzhFnYAuOGG%2Bh50xPOj5GMLjFtUBx1mvDRap70%3D&reserved=0 > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 12:00 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > While the oil itself may be able to withstand temps that high there is > > a difference from hitting the bottom of hot pistons or cooling > > bearings and the "bulk" temperature of the oil in the sump getting > > that hot. Just like the cooling system there are parts that are much > > hotter than the temperature reading at the gauge. That is why it is so > > important for the cooling system to maintain pressure to prevent > > vaporization. Anyway, for the Waterboxer a lot of bad things happen > > when the oil temp gets out of control. The first is the drop in oil > > pressure. This is due to the oil viscosity dropping and over expansion > > of parts of the engine causing clearances to increase. VW added the > > oil cooler on the 2.1L engines to keep the oil temp close to coolant > temp. At times it just isn't enough. > > Even with the oil cooler in Fun Bus oil testing has shown oxidation > > and nitration is happening, most likely due to high ring temp temps. > > Getting back to the oil tower question I have replaced many an o-ring > > at the base and the towers themselves du to them getting distorted or > > even melting where they sit on the crankcase. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: OlRivrRat [mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net] > > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 10:11 PM > > To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > > Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: breather tower > > > > On 19 Jan , 2019, at 2:23 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > > > > > Again from overheating that seal can fail also. BTW the crankcase > > > and > > engine oil can over heat even with the coolant temperature indicating > > all is normal. Enough speed and load or over filling can easily get > > the oil to 270F or more. > > > > While 270ºF is Pretty Darned Toasty it is not OverHeated, > > Especially if using a High Quality Synthetic ~ > > > > The Mob1 15w50 is Good to 500ºF According to the Mob'Guys ~ > > > > > > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > > mobil1racingstore.com > %2Fmobil-1-15w50-122377-oil&data=02%7C01%7C%7C711e5c2c746448a5b36b08d67ed7ea58%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636835863145738330&sdata=TXUUkQtfR1GJZ4w1Q0MFHTpyEGGzsmkqJigdLHczEI8%3D&reserved=0 > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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