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Subject:Re: camper water level indicator
From:Eric Caron
Date:Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:24:33 -0400

Oh you faint of heart!

        I usually check it by sound when lighting it.  So it is not hot at all.  Once lit for a time it is warm  and if not I then listen to see if working.  Mine never gets hot enough to burn a ear and you don’t need to touch it with your ear! 

Still that idea to use the stethoscope is pretty cool!  I even have a extra one.  

Now lets see about adding audio indicators to all this stuff.  Who needs all these silly lights.

Water tank level could be wave sounds for example.  Or a low too high tone works fine too.

Eric Caron 
85 GL auto.  With a original fridg that just keeps working!

Eric 

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> LOL!  Yeah, I think you can put your ear close enough with burning it..
> Sometimes
> I don't even have to get too close to "hear" it.   As with anything that
> gets hot, caution
> is always advised.  Don't let your kids see you touching it or they will
> imitate when you're
> not looking....
> 
> Steven
> 91 Westy
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:36 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> You guys put your ear to the vent? You’re going to burn your ear off!!
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Darn, Jim beat me to it!  This is how a blind  Westy owner does it!  I
>> go around the van and put my ear to the vent.  If you hear the sound of the
>> ocean in a sea shell go try again. If you hear a intermittent rumble you ar
>> all set.
>>> 
>>> I know of people that have changed the LED and now it is very bright ,so
>> fixing it for sighted folks is the way to go but my method work, and I get
>> a little more exercise going around the van until lit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
>>> 85 GL Auto
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 10:24 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As a backup means of determining if the fridge is operating (on flame,
>> which is what the LED will tell you) you can always lay a hand on the
>> outside flue vent. If you listen closely you can tell what cycle the fridge
>> by the sound coming from the flue.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2019 at 4:26 PM,  <David Beierl (mailto:dbeierl@gmail.com)>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can I jump on this thread to ask about the LED light near the bottom
>> of
>>>>>> that same panel (on my 87 Westy). I think the light is to indicate
>> that
>>>>>> the fridge is working on gas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mine has never worked and it would be nice to have. It's hard on the
>> neck
>>>>>> trying to see the flame through the tiny window at the bottom of the
>>>>>> fridge. Does anyone have any thoughts on what the cause and cure
>> might be?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Likeliest is black wire in LED panel harness unplugged from single
>>>>> connector in fridge harness. Or wire unplugged from the terminal where
>> the
>>>>> thermocouple screws into the gas valve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> After that likeliest is right-hand chip is bad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You *cannot* test this with a 1.5V battery. The signal goes negative to
>>>>> chassis ground, and the absolute maximum voltage for the chip negative
>> to
>>>>> the negative supply pin is 350 mV. If you can make a voltage divider
>>>>> limited to say -250 mV max you could use that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But when in doubt, replace the chip. Chips failing and the power switch
>>>>> coming unsoldered are about all that goes wrong with the board.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yrs,
>>>>> d
>>>>> 
>>