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Subject:Re: camper water level indicator
From:Jeff Palmer
Date:Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:05:35 -0500

What can I say - I guess my touch is better than my hearing!

On a happy note my fridge lit on the first try this past weekend and ran like a champ. Ran it overnight on 120v to get the juices flowing then gas for the drive home etc. 

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Oh you faint of heart!
> 
>        I usually check it by sound when lighting it.  So it is not hot at all.  Once lit for a time it is warm  and if not I then listen to see if working.  Mine never gets hot enough to burn a ear and you don’t need to touch it with your ear! 
> 
> Still that idea to use the stethoscope is pretty cool!  I even have a extra one.  
> 
> Now lets see about adding audio indicators to all this stuff.  Who needs all these silly lights.
> 
> Water tank level could be wave sounds for example.  Or a low too high tone works fine too.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 85 GL auto.  With a original fridg that just keeps working!
> 
> Eric 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> LOL!  Yeah, I think you can put your ear close enough with burning it..
>> Sometimes
>> I don't even have to get too close to "hear" it.   As with anything that
>> gets hot, caution
>> is always advised.  Don't let your kids see you touching it or they will
>> imitate when you're
>> not looking....
>> 
>> Steven
>> 91 Westy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:36 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You guys put your ear to the vent? You’re going to burn your ear off!!
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Darn, Jim beat me to it!  This is how a blind  Westy owner does it!  I
>>> go around the van and put my ear to the vent.  If you hear the sound of the
>>> ocean in a sea shell go try again. If you hear a intermittent rumble you ar
>>> all set.
>>>> 
>>>> I know of people that have changed the LED and now it is very bright ,so
>>> fixing it for sighted folks is the way to go but my method work, and I get
>>> a little more exercise going around the van until lit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>> 85 GL Auto
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 10:24 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a backup means of determining if the fridge is operating (on flame,
>>> which is what the LED will tell you) you can always lay a hand on the
>>> outside flue vent. If you listen closely you can tell what cycle the fridge
>>> by the sound coming from the flue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2019 at 4:26 PM,  <David Beierl (mailto:dbeierl@gmail.com)>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can I jump on this thread to ask about the LED light near the bottom
>>> of
>>>>>>> that same panel (on my 87 Westy). I think the light is to indicate
>>> that
>>>>>>> the fridge is working on gas.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mine has never worked and it would be nice to have. It's hard on the
>>> neck
>>>>>>> trying to see the flame through the tiny window at the bottom of the
>>>>>>> fridge. Does anyone have any thoughts on what the cause and cure
>>> might be?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Likeliest is black wire in LED panel harness unplugged from single
>>>>>> connector in fridge harness. Or wire unplugged from the terminal where
>>> the
>>>>>> thermocouple screws into the gas valve.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After that likeliest is right-hand chip is bad.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You *cannot* test this with a 1.5V battery. The signal goes negative to
>>>>>> chassis ground, and the absolute maximum voltage for the chip negative
>>> to
>>>>>> the negative supply pin is 350 mV. If you can make a voltage divider
>>>>>> limited to say -250 mV max you could use that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But when in doubt, replace the chip. Chips failing and the power switch
>>>>>> coming unsoldered are about all that goes wrong with the board.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yrs,
>>>>>> d
>>>>>> 
>>>