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Subject:Re: camper water level indicator
From:Eric Caron
Date:Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:10:43 -0400

Hi Jeff,

If I remember correctly you also have a 85.  A good year for the frig!

Eric Caron 
85 GL Auto 

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> What can I say - I guess my touch is better than my hearing!
> 
> On a happy note my fridge lit on the first try this past weekend and ran like a champ. Ran it overnight on 120v to get the juices flowing then gas for the drive home etc. 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh you faint of heart!
>> 
>>       I usually check it by sound when lighting it.  So it is not hot at all.  Once lit for a time it is warm  and if not I then listen to see if working.  Mine never gets hot enough to burn a ear and you don’t need to touch it with your ear! 
>> 
>> Still that idea to use the stethoscope is pretty cool!  I even have a extra one.  
>> 
>> Now lets see about adding audio indicators to all this stuff.  Who needs all these silly lights.
>> 
>> Water tank level could be wave sounds for example.  Or a low too high tone works fine too.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 85 GL auto.  With a original fridg that just keeps working!
>> 
>> Eric 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> LOL!  Yeah, I think you can put your ear close enough with burning it..
>>> Sometimes
>>> I don't even have to get too close to "hear" it.   As with anything that
>>> gets hot, caution
>>> is always advised.  Don't let your kids see you touching it or they will
>>> imitate when you're
>>> not looking....
>>> 
>>> Steven
>>> 91 Westy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:36 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You guys put your ear to the vent? You’re going to burn your ear off!!
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Darn, Jim beat me to it!  This is how a blind  Westy owner does it!  I
>>>> go around the van and put my ear to the vent.  If you hear the sound of the
>>>> ocean in a sea shell go try again. If you hear a intermittent rumble you ar
>>>> all set.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know of people that have changed the LED and now it is very bright ,so
>>>> fixing it for sighted folks is the way to go but my method work, and I get
>>>> a little more exercise going around the van until lit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> 85 GL Auto
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 10:24 PM, Jim. Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a backup means of determining if the fridge is operating (on flame,
>>>> which is what the LED will tell you) you can always lay a hand on the
>>>> outside flue vent. If you listen closely you can tell what cycle the fridge
>>>> by the sound coming from the flue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2019 at 4:26 PM,  <David Beierl (mailto:dbeierl@gmail.com)>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can I jump on this thread to ask about the LED light near the bottom
>>>> of
>>>>>>>> that same panel (on my 87 Westy). I think the light is to indicate
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the fridge is working on gas.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mine has never worked and it would be nice to have. It's hard on the
>>>> neck
>>>>>>>> trying to see the flame through the tiny window at the bottom of the
>>>>>>>> fridge. Does anyone have any thoughts on what the cause and cure
>>>> might be?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Likeliest is black wire in LED panel harness unplugged from single
>>>>>>> connector in fridge harness. Or wire unplugged from the terminal where
>>>> the
>>>>>>> thermocouple screws into the gas valve.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After that likeliest is right-hand chip is bad.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You *cannot* test this with a 1.5V battery. The signal goes negative to
>>>>>>> chassis ground, and the absolute maximum voltage for the chip negative
>>>> to
>>>>>>> the negative supply pin is 350 mV. If you can make a voltage divider
>>>>>>> limited to say -250 mV max you could use that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But when in doubt, replace the chip. Chips failing and the power switch
>>>>>>> coming unsoldered are about all that goes wrong with the board.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yrs,
>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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