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Subject:Re: First ride of shame, fuel issue
From:OlRivrRat
Date:Mon, 29 Jul 2019 23:53:15 -0600

So I think We Need to Rehash this ~

On 27 Jul , 2019, at 7:45 AM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Van had loss of power climbing a steep hill in second gear.  Engine to me seemed louder then usual but mabe my imagination.
> 
> Heidi, driver, reported loss of power and got us into a pull off and the van died.  No restart, no fluids on ground.  All levels normal.
> 
> No restart.  Heidi announced to me, before I could make a conclusion, the fuel pump is not working. 
> 
> I had her turn on the key and the buzzer sounded but no fuel pump. sound.

Friend checked power at the fuel pump and found no power.

I just checked the relays with the Mark method.

When key turned I hear two clicks and then a moment later a single click.

This sounds like Mark�s description of working relays. 

With my next helper I hope to check for power coming from the FP relay 

I can also remove the battery and bring it to a place for testing.

Today, with the kind help of a fellow list member, my fuel pump was replaced and now the van starts. 

Problem is now it is running very very rough and stalls unless foot is held to give gas.

It doesn�t start unless I pump the gas peddle.  Not what I expect from this van as it starts usually with foot off the gas.

Engine sounds very rough though it sounded good earlier this week.  

Today we could hear that in fact the old fuel pump was turning on but it didn�t sound like it used to for the past 7 years.  It turned on and vibrated but the sound was wrong.  We took off the fuel line in the engine compartment and cycled the fuel pump a few times.  No fuel.  

Now we have fuel but the engine sounds terrible.  Starts hard with lots of gas and runs rough. 
I notice also more vibration than usual.

        So why has the Focus now shifted to Lifters, PushRods & Valves just because of an Audio Recording that May or May Not be Accurate ~

Accurate Audio Recordings of Engine Sounds are Extremely Difficult if not Impossible to acquire even with Pro Gear ~