"So why has the Focus now shifted to Lifters, PushRods & Valves...?"

Ha!  Good one.  I should know better than to rush in when I can't even
solve my own troubles.
Re-reading the above, what if a slug of debris has moved through the fuel
system and is now intermittently wreaking havoc on many components?
(pressure regulator, injectors, orifice, etc)

I think Dennis asked about the possibility of bad gas.
-What happens when there is some water or diesel mixed with the gas?

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 1:53 AM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:

>         So I think We Need to Rehash this ~
>
> On 27 Jul , 2019, at 7:45 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
>
> > Van had loss of power climbing a steep hill in second gear.  Engine to
> me seemed louder then usual but mabe my imagination.
> >
> > Heidi, driver, reported loss of power and got us into a pull off and the
> van died.  No restart, no fluids on ground.  All levels normal.
> >
> > No restart.  Heidi announced to me, before I could make a conclusion,
> the fuel pump is not working.
> >
> > I had her turn on the key and the buzzer sounded but no fuel pump. sound.
>
>
> Friend checked power at the fuel pump and found no power.
>
> I just checked the relays with the Mark method.
>
> When key turned I hear two clicks and then a moment later a single click.
>
> This sounds like Mark’s description of working relays.
>
> With my next helper I hope to check for power coming from the FP relay
>
> I can also remove the battery and bring it to a place for testing.
>
>
> Today, with the kind help of a fellow list member, my fuel pump was
> replaced and now the van starts.
>
> Problem is now it is running very very rough and stalls unless foot is
> held to give gas.
>
> It doesn’t start unless I pump the gas peddle.  Not what I expect from
> this van as it starts usually with foot off the gas.
>
> Engine sounds very rough though it sounded good earlier this week.
>
> Today we could hear that in fact the old fuel pump was turning on but it
> didn’t sound like it used to for the past 7 years.  It turned on and
> vibrated but the sound was wrong.  We took off the fuel line in the engine
> compartment and cycled the fuel pump a few times.  No fuel.
>
> Now we have fuel but the engine sounds terrible.  Starts hard with lots of
> gas and runs rough.
> I notice also more vibration than usual.
>
>
>         So why has the Focus now shifted to Lifters, PushRods & Valves
> just because of an Audio Recording that May or May Not be Accurate ~
>
> Accurate Audio Recordings of Engine Sounds are Extremely Difficult if not
> Impossible to acquire even with Pro Gear ~