thanks Again Dennis they have the camber pretty spot on 7.35 L and 7.21 R.
I’ve been trying to post pone a trip to LI for after summer so I can try
and have some fun with this machine.  You’ve helped me numerous times this
summer and it’s much appreciated.  I was the guy bothering you about o2
sensors and temp gauge sensors etc.... I owe you some business and some
tacos and craft beers or something for sure.  I have a couple minor
gremlins I need sorted that are a little above my pay grade also thinking
of a possible tranny rebuild with an lsd,  although I’m hoping the
alignment and tires help with traction so I don’t feel the need for an
lsd.  Thanks again peace tom
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 12:05 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Shops usually discount alignments. They take on that work as it usually
> involves other repairs where they can make money along with helping tire
> sales. Vanagons add a bit of a challenge due to rusted stuff and the
> difficult access on a rack often makes getting a 2nd person necessary.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Tom Buese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:21 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: alignment & tires
>
> I pay usually about $80 for a 4 wheel alignment on my Vanagons on either
> coast. VMMV
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:10 PM Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Dennis,  that makes me feel better.  They spent almost two
> > hours dialing it in so I figured it was fair and it’s jersey prices.
> > Getting anyone to touch these things is a nightmare the dealership
> > didn’t want to look at it.  I’m glad they suck anyway,  I was
> > desperate though.  My last tires wore terribly, a Vanagon mechanic a
> > few years back was supposed to align the van and I don’t think he did.
> > My tires wore on the outside bad, the camber was off 2 degrees in the
> front.
> >
> >  Sorry I didn’t give u all the specs on suspension had a full rebuild,
> > polyurethane all around, front too back, new ball joints, t3 anti sway
> > bar, Audi discs front and back 86 spindles Gowesty no lift springs
> > bilsteins hd.  Haven’t had any rubbing issues luckily.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 6:05 PM Dennis Haynes
> > <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > $200 for a wheel alignment? Hopefully that was a very good job and
> > > that the suspension in really good condition to warrant it. Has the
> > > front suspension been serviced including the radius rod mounts?
> > > For the rear settings I would be impressed if the bushings could
> > > actually be moved and adjusted. That setting seems close to readings
> > > from the factory adjustment with years of sag in the rear bushings.
> > > A slight negative camber is called for though. I usually set for .5 to
> 1.
> > >
> > > Tire inflation is not an issue since all were set the same anyway.
> > > While Most of us seem to think that 39 front and 48 rear is the
> > > correct pressures, and seat of the pants seem to confirm that the
> > > size difference changes what is needed. If you get the load
> > > inflation chart for that tire which is an extra load rated design
> > > you'll find that even 32 psi is more than adequate to carry the actual
> load.
> > >
> > > While I am a big fan of that tire and use it on Syncros it is a bit
> > > large for 2WD and some vans I have seen rubbing issues up front. At
> > > just over
> > 27"
> > > it changes gearing and brake loading considerably. Front brakes on
> > > an 84 are not up to the task. Generally changing tire size by 3% is
> > > considered safe. With this tire you are pushing 6%. For the 85 and
> > > earlier vans I usually suggest 215/60-16XL or 225/60-16 as the upper
> > > limit even with a brake upgrade. Front brake upgrades will likely
> > > require changing the
> > front
> > > spindles.
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
> > > Thomas Casal
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 4:52 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: alignment & tires
> > >
> > >  Greetings volks,
> > >
> > > I have a new set of nokian rotiva at tires 215 65r16, 84 westfalia
> > > had them installed at etd tires which i should have my head examined
> > > right there.
> > > Anyway I found  a Euro tire shop to do an official alignment but I
> > > forgot to check my tire pressure from etd discount garbage and they
> > > are all at 36psi looking at the list it's looking like pressure
> > > should have been closer to 39psi front and 48psi rear.  Now I
> > > already paid 200$ for an alignment is changing my tire pressure going
> to ruin the alignment?
> > > Clearly it will effect how my tires wear a bit but will it be enough
> > > to warrant another alignment?  Also the rears were set at -1.39
> > > camber left and right curious as to why they would have done that?
> > > thanks for your responses.  peace tom
> > >
> >
> --
> Sent from Wherever I was @ the time
>