for those in the same situation...
as it now I am waiting for BenT clamshell extender... in the mean time I
use foam type tube insulator wrapped around the VC tire holder.. it's
working.

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 4:05 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Second attempt to send this message.
>
>         I also had the tire floating around when I used the Van Cafe
> holder.
>
>         The holder doesn’t use the wires that push down on the tire when
> in the clam shell.  The wires are removed to install the Van Cafe version.
> I actually have a special set of wires that work with it that a garage
> fabricated for me as they didn’t like the way the tire floated.
>
> But, When I put back the shell and used Ben’s front catch the original
> wires went back and all was well again.
>
> I do think though from reading Ben’s post, that the U Bolts lowering the
> back will remove the wires so we may need to deal with the floating tire
> again.  Maybe the ratchet strap trick that Neil mentioned earlier.
>
> Eric Caron
>