Hi David,

For shower I currently use the rear Bus depot hatch shelter and a solar bag shower. 

Only down side is sometimes I camp where I need to lock the bus.  

I’ve seen the tall shower tents but wondered how it would hold a heavy shower bag?  How does it do that?

Still contemplating portable toilet options. Don’t know much about them, but I keep wondering if Technology has come up with a small easy to maintain version. So far has not been a problem, but with age I can see how this would be a factor in keeping my driving partner happy.  Also, at some concert locations it would provide a more comfortable toilet solution!

Anyone ever create a cassette toilet that fits under the back seat and pops out when needed?  Was, that won’t work, bed , when down is a problem.  
 Maybe between the front seats.

Eric Caron 

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:38 AM, ddbjorkman@verizon.net wrote:
> 
> Eric, if you already don't, get a porta pottie.  Fits real well behind the passenger seat.  Then you will only be missing the inside shower ( on trips I carry a spring up cylindrical. enclosure and a bag shower).
> 
> Dave B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>
> To: vanagon <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 2:38 pm
> Subject: Just explored a sprinter camper, sticking to Vanagon!
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> My neighbor has a fairly new Sprinter with Winnebago conversion.
> 
> It is a nice truck.  4 wheel drive and full of nice features. 
> 
> I liked two things the most about it.  It is new so very reliable, and it has a small shower and toilet.  Third I did like the awning as it will automatically retract if wind comes up. 
> 
> But, That’s it.  I feel like the space is so much more than a vanagon yet, it does less. Or certainly no more.  In fact it sleeps three adults if you try hard, I have slept 4 just fine. 
> 
>         He said it drives best about 55 miles an hour to 65 but not that fun to drive.  70 is a real challenge. 
> 
> He was also not happy with the conversion materials quality.  And he said a rattly noisy ride. 
> 
> Give me a reliable Vanagon and I’ll deal without the shower and toilet. 
> 
>         We have an amazing ride if we can just keep them happily going down the road! 
> 
> Eric Caron