Hi skip and others,

 I know very little but I do want to share one thing.  I had a shop replace the pads on my ATE and they tossed out the anti squeal shims with the old pads.  Ken at Vanagain found me a replacement set.   They can get stuck to the old pads and people don’t realize they are important and need to be reused.

David Beierl was kind enough to show me how to pull the pads from the calipers and when the shims arrived I installed and no more squeal. 

Skip, hold onto those anti squeal shims!

Thanks again David!  And this list and members are the best resource.

Eric Caron 
85 GL auto 

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 10:12 PM, Skip L <skiplaubach@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> The calipers that I have are definitely ATE.  Ken has excellent photos on
> his website at Vanagain.com to compare Girling to ATE.  Thanks Ken!
> 
> I'll be calling Vanagain tomorrow, and also VanCafe to see if VanCafe's
> pins that they sell are Girling or ATE pins (the website does not
> specify).  If VanCafe's pins are ATE, then my rebuilt ATE's are not rebuilt
> very well and the holes are not big enough to fit the collar on the
> pins...or something like that.
> 
> Skip
> 
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 8:31 PM Skip L <skiplaubach@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks David.  Not sure (at this time) which calipers I have.  Do both ATE
>> and Girling use pins?  The calipers (rebuilt) are relatively new (two
>> years) and I just ordered new pins from VanCafe/RMW.  Maybe I need to order
>> a set of pins for the "other" caliper brand.  These pins to not go in, with
>> a tap or otherwise.  The price for pins are < $10, so not big deal to order
>> a set of each.
>> 
>> I'll give VanCafe/RMW a call tomorrow.
>> 
>> Skip
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 8:19 PM David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Do I pound this loose collar into the hole of the caliper?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes.  Though I'd say tap rather than pound.
>>> 
>>> If what you're putting in isn't identical to what came out, remember
>>> there are ATE and Girling calipers, and the pads and hardware are slightly
>>> different.
>>> 
>>> Yrs,
>>> d
>>> 
>>