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Subject:Re: Friday subject - are we on the list just old farts?
From:Jeff Palmer
Date:Sun, 16 Feb 2020 00:00:36 -0600

Got my van 27 years ago when I was 22. The math suggests I have a milestone coming up in the not too distant future.  

Jeff 
85 Westfalia
71 Legs

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> On Feb 15, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:
> 
> 44 years old next Friday. Still not able to grow a decent beard ;-) Grey
> hair popping up here and there.
> 
> Vanagon owner since age 21.
> F**ks sake, that is also more than half my life. Now I am depressed.
> 
> Raimund
> 
> 
>> Am 15.02.2020 um 17:34 schrieb Douglas Toomey:
>> 60 years, no beard, have had the same westy for more than half my life. Keeps me young
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear old fart
>>> 
>>> Indeed -
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Richard Smith <smirby@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Being an old fart myself (60), I feel like I can weigh in. My vanagon
>>>> experience dates back only to 2013. Back in the 80s I had a bus (a '73) but
>>>> I was ignorant of it being a community or cultural object (we didn't have
>>>> the internet to give us hashtags), and other than giving the peace sign to
>>>> other VW drivers, I just drove it. Across Canada. Twice. In the winter, in
>>>> Manitoba. Oh my god, it was cold.
>>>> 
>>>> When it broke, I borrowed the John Muir book, complete with hand-drawn
>>>> instructions, and pulled the engine to fix the transmission. I had NO CLUE
>>>> what I was doing, no advice from anyone, other than one very unreliable
>>>> buddy. I would have loved to have had a community of people to help. Even
>>>> stranger, this was in Vancouver. The place was thick with (weed smoking)
>>>> bus drivers... how did I not find them. Again, pre-internet it was harder
>>>> to do...
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, nowadays I fix what I can and get a mechanic to do the more
>>>> complicated stuff. I love the list (and the facebook groups) and have gone
>>>> to a few PNW meet ups in Washington State and British Colombia. Most of the
>>>> people at those events are 50+, with some exceptions. Some young families,
>>>> the occasional single guy or gal. None are what you'd call #hashtag people.
>>>> Perhaps those people don't go to meetups?
>>>> 
>>>> I am really glad to have the list, and the facebook groups, even if it
>>>> sometimes makes me paranoid (what with regularly posting their flatbed
>>>> photos). Lately I've added another layer of paranoia: the postings about
>>>> stolen vans.
>>>> 
>>>> To Alistair's original point, that old farts are less likely to buy
>>>> (expensive) add-ons, I have to semi-agree. I try to keep my van (more or
>>>> less) original, and I hesitate to add too much extra stuff. But when
>>>> something really good comes along (like those pop-top lift assist struts!),
>>>> then I am willing to make the investment. A couple of years ago, after a
>>>> tire store guy backed the van into a bollard I added some nice tough
>>>> bumpers. In those situations I am inclined to go for quality, and I'm
>>>> willing to pay what it costs to get that quality.
>>>> 
>>>> My two cents (even though we don't have pennies in Canada any more).
>>>> 
>>>> ...r
>>>> 
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