I would consider myself a less-than-old fart who prefers this list than any
book of faces.

Just saying.

Cheers!

On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 00:50 Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear old fart
>
> Indeed -
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 7:24 PM Richard Smith <smirby@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Being an old fart myself (60), I feel like I can weigh in. My vanagon
> > experience dates back only to 2013. Back in the 80s I had a bus (a '73)
> but
> > I was ignorant of it being a community or cultural object (we didn't have
> > the internet to give us hashtags), and other than giving the peace sign
> to
> > other VW drivers, I just drove it. Across Canada. Twice. In the winter,
> in
> > Manitoba. Oh my god, it was cold.
> >
> > When it broke, I borrowed the John Muir book, complete with hand-drawn
> > instructions, and pulled the engine to fix the transmission. I had NO
> CLUE
> > what I was doing, no advice from anyone, other than one very unreliable
> > buddy. I would have loved to have had a community of people to help. Even
> > stranger, this was in Vancouver. The place was thick with (weed smoking)
> > bus drivers... how did I not find them. Again, pre-internet it was harder
> > to do...
> >
> > Anyway, nowadays I fix what I can and get a mechanic to do the more
> > complicated stuff. I love the list (and the facebook groups) and have
> gone
> > to a few PNW meet ups in Washington State and British Colombia. Most of
> the
> > people at those events are 50+, with some exceptions. Some young
> families,
> > the occasional single guy or gal. None are what you'd call #hashtag
> people.
> > Perhaps those people don't go to meetups?
> >
> > I am really glad to have the list, and the facebook groups, even if it
> > sometimes makes me paranoid (what with regularly posting their flatbed
> > photos). Lately I've added another layer of paranoia: the postings about
> > stolen vans.
> >
> > To Alistair's original point, that old farts are less likely to buy
> > (expensive) add-ons, I have to semi-agree. I try to keep my van (more or
> > less) original, and I hesitate to add too much extra stuff. But when
> > something really good comes along (like those pop-top lift assist
> struts!),
> > then I am willing to make the investment. A couple of years ago, after a
> > tire store guy backed the van into a bollard I added some nice tough
> > bumpers. In those situations I am inclined to go for quality, and I'm
> > willing to pay what it costs to get that quality.
> >
> > My two cents (even though we don't have pennies in Canada any more).
> >
> > ...r
> >
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