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Subject:Re: Real time help needed
From:Alistair Bell
Date:Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:17:01 -0700

Ok doke

Ab

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> you can test it simply using starter fluid... if the engine starts and die then it's probably the injectors not delivering fuel for some reason.
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:10 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Oh another thing, I don’t detect any gas smell during all the cranking. Tell me I should if injectors firing, right? 
>> 
>> So I’m suspecting no injector action or no fuel delivery 
>> 
>> Ab
>> 
>> > On Mar 29, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Stacy Schneider <vwcrewman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Have you pulled a plug and checked for spark?  Look at the halls plug and make sure it is sound. I once had this situation and the ring on the back of the alternator had snapped.
>> > This would be a good time to have one of Mark Drillocks devised testing devices.
>> > 
>> >                                                                                                                                   Stacy   
>> > 
>> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:02 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >> Yes, battery good and when cranked low durign tests I combined it with my 200 Ahr aux battery.
>> >> 
>> >> Have on board charger, it’s been charging all night now.
>> >> 
>> >> Alistair 
>> >> 
>> >> > On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:49 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >     No time now to read all to see what You have checked > Just will ask if
>> >> > 
>> >> > You have checked to see if Battery has @Least Full Voltage ~ Had similar hap'
>> >> > 
>> >> > once & it turned out to be Shorted Cell so there was still plenty of Juice to Crank
>> >> > 
>> >> > but Not Enough Volts to make ECU Happy ~
>> >> > 
>> >> >> On 29 Mar , 2020, at 10:26 AM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Dan,
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The box that has the two relays? Fuel pump and ecu relays? 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I did swap relays and felt for them clicking when I inserted them with ign on. Being alone that’s the way I had to do it . Fuel pump does hum on start, as does the idle air valve .
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> But I’ll check the wires to those relays again today. And the black wire from coil to ecu. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Alistair
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> I am not sure if this help but you may want to try. Similar situation happened to me on a long trip... stop for gas and the engine didn't start, it cranked strong. Pish the van on the side and called a mechanic.. he can't come till next day because he's busy.
>> >> >>> So I went to the engine bay and check all the connections. Finally found this: 
>> >> >>> - on the black box that sits on top of the coil, there's one large wire loom and one small one
>> >> >>> - disconnect the small one, clean the connector and reconnect.
>> >> >>> try it.
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 5:20 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >> >>>> No spare ecu. 
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>>> There is absolutely no gas smell from tail pipe after all the cranking. I’d imagine I would smell some.
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>>> But I’m sure I hear the pump come on and shut off as usual when ign on.
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>>> Tomorrow I’ll make sure I have fuel at least to the injectors 
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>>> Being one man here and no remote start, fiddling on the engine while cranking ain’t gonna happen today 
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> >>>> Alistair 
>> >> >>>> 
>> >> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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