I really thought it was important to use a phosphate free coolant, so I
have made that a point each time I change.  Since better brand name
coolants specify, that is easy to do.

mcneely

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 9:17 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I think the biggest value of this article is the quick explanation of why
> there are so many choices. To add to this confusion just add industrial
> applications and other heavy duty applications. There are applications out
> there where coolant changes just aren’t practical so other maintenance
> methods are required and while most of us just think of corrosion as the
> concern there are other things that can happen to the insides of an engine.
> There are also all the dissimilar  metals that can be a cooling system, and
> some of those change when we change parts. For example my motorhome has a
> cast iron engine and the original radiator was copper-brass along with the
> heater core. The radiator has been replaced with a aluminum unit. The
> original coolant was a Diesel engine specific that required regular
> additive testing and the addition of supplemental coolant additives to
> protect from cylinder cavitation erosion.
>
> After the radiator change switched over the a product called Final Charge.
> This has become my coolant of choice. This is an extreme long life coolant
> which for the most part eliminates coolant maintenance for us. A downside
> is that this product has very low surface tension so if there is anything
> that can leak, it will. It also leaves a reside trail making small leaks
> easier to find. However it keeps things clean, does not have abrasives that
> eat water pump seals and should reduce or avoid the cavitation erosion that
> sometimes destroys our head studs.
>
> For the most part, any coolant will work for us. Avoid mixing the
> different types and especially if you have hard or well water avoid using
> it. I hate paying for water but I purchase coolant pre-mixed.
>
> Dennis
>
>
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> Agreed
> Makes no sense at all.
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> Bob
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> > On Apr 4, 2020, at 23:53, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote:
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> > So, per the article you should:
> >
> >        Use brand A, or maybe Brand B, but be careful those two contain
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> >
> > This is the most confusing article I've read in a long time.
> >
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