

| Subject: | Re: Update Re: Engine died, March 31 update and maybe ecu smoking gun? |
| From: | Mark Belanger |
| Date: | Sun, 5 Apr 2020 13:15:31 -0700 |
Both require an external power supply powered by AC. "Portable" seems to mean there is no desktop unit attached to it, not that it is cordless. -MB On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:15 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > Mark, > > Was thinking your example needed external power supply. > > In any case, I’ve been thinking of a new iron for the shop, but maybe > instead I’ll use th money for a van portable one. > > Cheers > > Ab > > On Apr 3, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Same thing. Runs off an external power supply and heats up to 400C. > Standard Chinese product, where there seems to be one reference design sold > under a bunch of different brands. They all use TS tips. The > differentiators are typically what is bundled with the unit. I can vouch > for the one I bought, but I did also buy a beefier tip to go with it. > > The butane iron I referenced is the only one I've ever owned and have > never run out of fuel in the middle of use. > > > -MB > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 1:02 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> I was thinking more along the lines of this >> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/YKEY-Programmable-Pocket-size-Soldering-Acceleration/dp/B071K5FNGT/ref=sr_1_9?crid=366871RDEB5JY&dchild=1&keywords=usb+soldering+iron&qid=1585944038&sprefix=Usb+solder%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-9 >> >> Or similar. >> >> My one butane iron never lasted long. Probably better ones now and that’s >> a good option. >> >> Alistair >> >> On Apr 3, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> You mean like this one? >> >> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D35B75T/> >> >> While they're quite amazing, they require 24V 3A DC, usually via >> transformer. I also have have a nifty butane powered soldering iron from a >> company in Japan: >> >> <https://www.engineer.jp/en/products/sk70e.html> >> >> Though, my came with a nice metal case. I actually use it with the hot >> blower tip for heat shrink tubing more than for soldering. Really handy >> thing. >> >> >> -MB >> >> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:55 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> One of those new generation usb chargeable ones? >>> >>> Ab >>> >>> > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:42 AM, Jack R <jack007@comcast.net> wrote: >>> > >>> > Adding a soldering iron to my on-board tool kit, thanks to you >>> sharing your adventure! >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>> Behalf Of Alistair Bell >>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:15 PM >>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> > Subject: Re: Update Re: Engine died, March 31 update and maybe ecu >>> smoking gun? >>> > >>> > Yes the strange times did add a dimension to the event. >>> > >>> > But golly, was so lucky to breakdown within pushing distance of work, >>> and it wasn’t somewhere else. >>> > >>> > God forbid it happened on a logging road. >>> > >>> > Alistair >>> > >>> >> On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Bravo! Congratulations! And thanks for giving me something to look >>> >> forward to reading >>> >> during these strange times.... >>> >> >>> >> Steven >>> >> 91 Westy >>> >> >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:38 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I want that tee shirt :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> Ab >>> >>> >>> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:21 PM, stuartmacm@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Congrats Alistair! You fixed you Vanagon with a soldering iron! I >>> bet >>> >>> that's what ECU rebuilders do. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of >>> >>> Alistair Bell >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:17 PM >>> >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> >>>> Subject: Re: Update Re: Engine died, March 31 update and maybe ecu >>> >>> smoking gun? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It worked! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thank you very much mark for all your help. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Alistair >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 5:04 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> No, bottom left is pin 25. >>> >>>>>> Pin 25 is the ignition coil trigger from it's driver transistor. >>> >>>>>> That check mark for the middle pin of the transistor appears to >>> show >>> >>> that your bad solder joint is for the pin 25 signal as hoped. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Mark >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Alistair Bell wrote: >>> >>>>>> Ok, did that. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> And apologies for the confusing way I noted results. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> The board tested in orientation shown, the red tape and black >>> marks >>> >>>>>> refer to the pin orientation and results. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> From pin mark outwards, too and bottom, check mark means >>> continuity, >>> >>>>>> check plus asterisk means brief continuity. Dash mark means no >>> >>> continuity. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Started with transistor leg on right. Marks on tape closest to pin >>> >>>>>> marks. Working ext was middle leg, and finally left leg. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I think, if I’ve rotated things in my head correctly, the pin >>> marks >>> >>>>>> are too left 13, top right 1 Bottom left 14 , bottom right 25 >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> If that’s right, nine of your suggested pins have continuity to >>> any >>> >>>>>> of the legs of the trans. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> https://shufti.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/3e721a30-3d1c-42e2-9f2a-19 >>> >>>>>> 2eb14ad5a1.jpeg >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> The transistor as I measured, right leg first, then middle then >>> left >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> https://shufti.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/cb7b8634-ac9f-4345-b857-3a >>> >>>>>> 8a061a9e54.jpeg >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Ab >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 4:17 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@cox.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> For fun you could use an Ohm meter to see if that transistor >>> >>>>>>> connects to the ECU pin that drives the ignition coil. >>> >>>>>>> Put a meter probe on each of the three legs in turn and test the >>> ECU >>> >>>>>>> pin(s) with the other probe. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> I would look at ECU pins 25, 12 3 >>> >>>>>>> to see if any leg of that transistor connects to any of those >>> pins. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> The driver transistor for the fuel injectors is the one I'm used >>> to >>> >>>>>>> seeing a bad connector at. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Mark >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Alistair Bell wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> That black component that had the one leg solder joint broken is >>> >>>>>>>> BUV37B >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Looked up and it’s , if I read it right, a power transistor. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Alistair >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> >> >> -- >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Mark Belanger - mbelanger@gmail.com >> >> > > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Mark Belanger - mbelanger@gmail.com > > -- ________________________________________________________________________ Mark Belanger - mbelanger@gmail.com
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