Alistair,

Thanks for going through your reasoning, it’s really helpful for me to
consider ( and I really value your thoughts given the years I’ve been
reading your posts and blog).

Everything you say makes sense and I wonder if drawing up a bunch of
standard use cases would benefit the community to explore a set of common
needs.

If folks would find this useful I’d be willing to setup a web space to host
these common scenarios.

Cheers,
Harry

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Harry,
>
> These are my reasons I’m heading towards dropping the propane.
>
> 1. The number one reason - the fridge. I’ve kept with the propane fridge,
> making little mods to eke out as much cooling as I can. But if I find a
> good deal on an electric fridge I’ll take it. I have an aux battery well
> suited for that, plus solar panels.
>
> 2. During summer camping its the fridge and stove using the propane. If no
> propane fridge then I’ve got a big heavy propane tank just for the stove.
>
> 3. I want to reduce van weight. I’ve got the big aux battery onboard, I’d
> keep that and drop the propane tank.
>
> 4. With diesel heater, Id only need to carry heater fuel when I need the
> heater.
>
> 5. Can buy the fuel in more places than I can get my propane tank refilled.
>
> Not one of the reasons has anything to do with any fear of having propane
> on board. Nor have I ever suggested carrying diesel or kerosene inside the
> van or in any other unsafe manner.
>
> Alistair
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 2020, at 3:47 AM, Harry Hoffman <hhoffman@ip-solutions.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Is the concern over propane the fact that it's under pressure? Or is
> > there some other concern?
> >
> > I ask because I'm going towards propane, mainly because I see it as a
> > plentiful fuel resource that's pretty easy to deal with and clean
> > (from the messiness aspect not the emissions aspect).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Harry
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:13 AM Karl Mullendore
> >> <tdiguru@westyventures.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I still don't get why so many say they want to 'get rid of propane' yet
> then add another fuel source in place of it, sometimes in horribly unsafe
> locations. Buy an illegal, direct copy of a product developed over many
> years by a good German company (Espar), one that carries no warranty and
> barely any support from the sellers. If one already has a gasoline engine
> and tank installed, why not support a legit company that sells a superior
> [gas-fired] product with full warranty and support in the USA - Webasto? If
> a 4kw version is desired for larger vans, the choices then expand to
> include Espar (whose design the Chinese stole).
>
>