Thanks for describing the picture!

That would certainly be a nice option for a weekender.  And it would also be a very nice way of adding a seat behind the passenger driver.  Especially nice if it could be easily removed.  

Eric Caron 

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> by the look of the picture on the link that Mark sent... I don't think it's
> a swivel seat...
> I used to have a 1985 weekender (poptop, no kitchen) it has a seat like
> that... bolted behind the driver seat, removable cushion to access to the
> storage space, pocket on the side, no armrest.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 4:09 AM Steven Shelton <shelton4@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I bought my 1985 Westfalia new with a center single seat. It swivels and
>> has arm rests. The heavy steel base has a door for extra storage
>> underneath. It's so heavy, though, that it's quite a balancing act to hold
>> it up propped on the edge of the doorway while trying to get the base to
>> line up in the rails and slide it in.
>> 
>> If one of the front seats ever gets worn out, I'll see if the center seat
>> can be made to replace it.
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:20 AM Kenneth O'Connor <
>> kenneth.oconnor@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If I lived closer, I would totally grab this for my van!
>>> 
>>> Thank You,
>>> 
>>> Ken
>>> (941) 323-4710
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 9:41 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure what vans had the rails but my 85 does.  And, I’ve used
>>> both the two seat and single seat on the rails for extra seating.
>>>> 
>>>>       My grey seat fits the same rails so I have to wonder if 85 is
>> the
>>> only year.  What year did the grey interior start?  Or maybe that was
>> used
>>> on the same rails in later passenger vans?  Either way the rails must
>> have
>>> been there when there was a grey interior.
>>>> 
>>>> I did read that the single swivel was very rare.  I almost think just
>>> the 85.
>>>> 
>>>>       the single seat is pretty nice as it uses the rails but has the
>>> same swivel as the front seats.  It also has a storage compartment with
>> the
>>> same lock as the glove box.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m forgetting now but I almost think I purchased the base from someone
>>> on the list, maybe Mark?
>>>> 
>>>> The seat was given to me by a local VW friend and pack rat.  It is far
>>> from perfect but serviceable.
>>>> 
>>>>       Tips from folks on this list helped me get it in good shape.
>>> Interestingly it has no head rest or arm rests.  The collector said he
>>> thought it was originally from a 85 swivel seat.
>>>> 
>>>> I rarely use them in the van, but they are fun toys.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a 85 full westy that had the slide in single seat on a swivel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I retrofitted the whole westy interior into a 86 westfalia "weekender"
>>>>> Edward
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 10:42 PM Dennis Haynes <
>> d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 85 seems to be the year that had the floor with the rails and covers
>> to
>>>>>> accept the additional seat. Shortly after I purchased Fun Bus I
>> worked
>>> with
>>>>>> the dealer to order all the parts needed to add the seat and floor
>>> parts as
>>>>>> I needed to seat 5 at the time. VWoA caught on and stopped the order.
>>> Never
>>>>>> got in writing but was told that seat wasn't crash tested. My guess
>> is
>>> that
>>>>>> being centered with the sliding door it was not a good place to be if
>>>>>> t-boned on that side. I ended up with an American van seat set up
>> that
>>> was
>>>>>> used for many years. Now I have a rear facing set up like used on the
>>> later
>>>>>> carats. I like that set up better as it leaves the space in the
>> center
>>> of
>>>>>> the van open and is very easy to folds up out of the way or remove.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of David McNeely
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 10:22 PM
>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Free Westy middle jumpseat in SoCal?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eric, so far as I know, no Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile ("Westy,"
>>> or
>>>>>> "Full Camper" as many call it) came with a jump seat.  There are no
>>> rails
>>>>>> to accommodate one in mine, for sure, and the owner's manual doesn't
>>>>>> mention it.  There is a one passenger jump seat that came in some
>> other
>>>>>> versions that some folks fit to the Campmobile.  I have one of those,
>>> and
>>>>>> it works really well if you install it properly.  However, I suspect
>> it
>>>>>> would not meet current safety laws even installed properly, though it
>>> does
>>>>>> have a shoulder belt -- that attaches to the same mounts as the front
>>>>>> passenger belt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mcneely
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 7:14 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mark and others,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      It seems that if you are patient these seats still show up.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      I have been given a brown one in lovely condition that matches
>>>>>>> my 85.  I also have a grey one.  I only use them in the van about
>>> once a
>>>>>> year.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use them as small couches the rest of the year.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Still, if someone with a grey van needs a middle seat I’ll give it
>> to
>>>>>>> them.  I actually use the grey one in my van more as it feels a bit
>>>>>>> lighter, so easier to install.  I’m probably imagining it but maybe
>>>>>>> they lightened it somehow.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Both my middle seats have two arm rests.  I suspect this means they
>>>>>>> were originally in passenger vans.  But they slide in on the rails.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve learned to remove one arm rest by the driver’s side to get a
>>>>>>> perfect fit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is the actual Westie jump seat different?  Mine is a two seater.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also have the single seat option.  That usually sits on a rocking
>>>>>>> chair base I made for it.  But it is ready to pop into the van if
>>> needed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 8:08 PM, vw_van_fan_Mark <madvws@COX.NET>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foran
>>>>>>> gecounty.craigslist.org
>>> %2Fwto%2Fd%2Forange-1987-vanagon-wheels-tires-a
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> d=0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not mine, won't get involved.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>