The Clutch Hydraulics would not be In Play in the Brake Hydraulics Bleed

necessities ~ But >> If Your Intention is to get Old Fluid Out of the Brake/Clutch

Hydraulic Network, Then You Will Want To Vac' & Let New Fluid be Drawn into the

Clutch Line As Well ~ I would think that that could be done After or Before B'B' ~

On 9 May , 2020, at 2:32 PM, Thomas Casal wrote:

> I�m pretty sure the clutch doesn�t affect the bleed sequence from what I�ve
> read on the samba and here. You may want to wait for Dennis or one of the
> other masters to chime in but from my understanding that�s the sequence and
> if you want to bleed the clutch you can do it after.
> 
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:11 PM Ryan Cresawn <jrcresawn@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, but with a manual transmission shouldn't the clutch slave cylinder
>> also be flushed as part of this sequence? Pages 47.8 and 47.8a of the
>> Bentley service manual document the bleed sequence the same as you have,
>> but the clutch slave cylinder is not listed. Mine is a 1991 Vanagon with
>> the original 2.1-liter engine and 4-speed manual transmission, if that
>> matters.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan
>> 
>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 11:40 AM Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sequence is farthest to closest to the master. So right rear left rear
>>> right front left front.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 12:45 PM Ryan Cresawn <jrcresawn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I will be bleeding my brakes soon and I would like to know what the
>>>> correct bleed order is with a manual transmission. I could not find
>>>> instructions in the Bentley.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ryan
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 9:22 AM Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So I finally got a new g60 caliper the bleeder screw and inlet are in
>>>>> different places but that�s not my problem although I thought I
>>>>> installed
>>>>> the caliper incorrectly for a second. I bled the system with the motive
>>>>> bleeder. Looked like I got all the bubbles out let it drain for a while
>>>>> after I stopped seeing bubbles but I have no pedal pressure when the
>>>>> van is
>>>>> running. however I do have pedal pressure when it�s not.  I thought I
>>>>> just
>>>>> had to bleed it again maybe some air still trapped in the system but the
>>>>> fact I have pedal pressure when it�s not running and none when it is is
>>>>> making me think I have a different issue. Anyone have any idea? Is that
>>>>> what that little sensor on the master cylinder does?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:44 PM Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for clarifying that Stuart. The "rest of the class"
>>>>>> likely understood what you meant but since I use a home brew pressure
>>>>>> bleeder, was curious.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good to get a PSI value on this as well. I'm careful of how much
>>>>>> pressure I use but over the years, may've been using too much. The
>>>>>> plastic on my '81 fluid reservoir is old !
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Neil.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/5/20, stuartmacm@gmail.com <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When you release the pressure in the Motive tank  the air at  the
>>>>> top of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pressurized master cylinder reservoir will be forced  back down the
>>>>> hose
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> bubble out of the tube that goes into the fluid.  That's what I
>>>>> meant.
>>>>>>> Pinching  off the hose will prevent this, or just don't open  the
>>>>> Motive
>>>>>>> tank until bleeding is done, which means having a good amount of
>>>>> fluid in
>>>>>>> the tank when you start.   It's a great product and I've used it
>>>>> many
>>>>>> times
>>>>>>> on all my vehicles.  I also use it to pressurize the Vanagon cooling
>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> for leak testing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 9:49 AM
>>>>>>> To: Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions about brake bleeding
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HI Stuart.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4/11/17, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> .... If you have to add more when you crack the cap you'll bubble
>>>>> air
>>>>>>>> into the fluid remaining and will need to wait several hours or
>>>>> toss it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not familiar with the Motive pressure bleeder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Neil n
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> VE7TBN
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>