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Subject:Re: Problems wit rear lighting need the wisdom of the ages
From:Edward Barger
Date:Thu, 4 Jun 2020 14:27:18 -0700

I have removed the tail light assemblies and the engine compartment lid   looking for that elusive one brown / natural wire  connections to the chassis 

to no avail  

There is the 6 pin connector with one brown wire on each side  

Any more help as where to locate this elusive wire connected to the chassis 

 AND I am desperately trying to figure out how to resolve the problem with gerry   must have offended him and got blackballed 
I get every ones post not mine  and mine do not see to be getting out to the members 

ed

Edward V Barger
edvbarger@yahoo.com 
310 922 6251
“Age is an issue of mind over matter …
If you don’t mind it doesn’t  matter "
Mark Twain

> On Jun 4, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like some ground wires are not connected. Look around the drivers side rear for brown wires that need to get under a sheet metal screw.
>  
> Dennis
>  
> From: Edward Barger <edvbarger@yahoo.com <mailto:edvbarger@yahoo.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 1:20 PM
> To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
> Cc: Jim Arnott <jim@eoni.com <mailto:jim@eoni.com>>; jlgoubeaux59@gmail.com <mailto:jlgoubeaux59@gmail.com>; d23haynes57@hotmail.com <mailto:d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Problems wit rear lighting need the wisdom of the ages 
>  
> Note I have also posted this to individuals  Have no idea if this will actually post by “gerry”  Have been having problems posting for a while now.  Even got a yahoo.com <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyahoo.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cd54067194c1143fbbc8208d808ab9082%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637268880237418700&sdata=9k%2FaN3mBa0RbLfmaFl%2F%2Bf5LArQma11%2Bf5qGz4dge7Rw%3D&reserved=0> address to correct the problem 
>  
> Looking forward to help on this 
>  
>  
> VW Problems  with lighting
> 1987 VW Vanagon Westfalia
> 1993 Subaru engine
>  
> All running lights : markers, turn signal, break and back up lights were replaced with LED 4 years ago
> At the time of replacement up till now all worked as expected
>  
> Had some body work done and total re paint  lighting units were removed and re installed
>  
> Now having this happening
>  
> VW Problems  with lighting 
> 1987 VW Vanagon Westfalia 
> 1993 Subaru engine 
>  
> All running lights : markers, turn signal, break and back up lights were replaced with LED 4 years ago 
> At the time of replacement  up till now all worked as expected 
>  
> Had some body work done and total re paint  lighting units were removed and re installed 
>  
> Now having this happening
>  
> 1.  ignition key on Head light switch off : right turn signal activated Front amber signal works normal 
> Rear right turn signal works   But both the right and left side break lights also flash 
>  
> With the head light switch on it is the same with the turn and break lights BUT  now the back up lights are on and the transmission is not in reverse 
>  
> 2.  Ignition key on head lights off : Left turn signal activated  front and rear indicator lights flash normal 
>  
> With the head light switch on : front and real turn signal flash normal 
> BUT the back lights come on and the transmission not in reverse 
>  
> 3. With headlights on or off Left turn signal activated works normal until the breaks are applies then the Left turn signal stops flashing front and rear 
>  
> 4. Ignition key on head lights on van in reverse : backup lights work 
> along with the headlights and running lights 
>  
> Ignition key on head lights off  transmission in reverse back up lights do not work 
>  
> . With the  night running / head lights off:
> The backup light does not come on when in reverse  
> Edward V Barger
> edvbarger@yahoo.com <mailto:edvbarger@yahoo.com> 
> 310 922 6251
> “Age is an issue of mind over matter …
> If you don’t mind it doesn’t  matter "
> Mark Twain