

| Subject: | Re: Coolant Hoses, Complete Set -- Remove and Replace |
| From: | vw_van_fan_Mark |
| Date: | Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:15:59 -0700 |
You can buy as few as you need from these guys for most Vanagon sizes. If you look closely at your existing spring clamps there is a size marked on them on the tab. https://www.buslab.com/searchresults.asp?Search=spring+clamp&Submit= Mark Gabriel Hourtouat wrote: > I saw quite a few screw style clamps as well as some spring clamps. Are > some of those screw clamps original? > > The GW stainless pipe kit came with screw clamps for the mid section. Is > it preferable to source spring clamps for these too? > > I see a variety of sizes. Can a1.75" spring clamp be used for the 44mm, > 45mm and 47mm connections? > > For reference: > 47 mm (12 connections, including the 4 mentioned above) > 45 mm (2 connections) > 44 mm (2 connections) > 40 mm (2 connections) > 35 mm (2 connections) > 32 mm (6 connections) > 28 mm (1 connection) > 24 mm (2 connections) > 21 mm (2 connections) > 18 mm (4 connections) > 16 mm (1 connection) > 15 mm (2 connections) > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:58 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> From Walmart the Final charge is only available in store, not online. >> If the heater tees are plastic consider replacing them. They like to get >> brittle and break at the worst times. >> A right angle pick or awl will make getting the hoses loose easier. I like >> to use a sealant on the hose ends like the aviation gasket cement. Helps >> them slide on easier and eliminates that seepage, salt corrosion. >> Especially on the plastic connections use the correct clamps. You need >> thermal expansion. >> Even the name brand thermostats vary significantly. Just has a Mahle >> running at 211-213 according to the GoWesty EFI scan gauge. Replaced stat >> same brand now at 197-200. This is on a GW 2.7L. >> Yes the condenser blocks some air flow but there is more than enough >> capacity even with the AC working. Do you ever plan to repair the AC? If >> yes leave it in place. The longer you leave the AC inoperative the worse >> the repairs needed can be. Consider the parallel flow condenser as an >> upgrade. Better for cooling and AC performance. >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of >> Gabriel Hourtouat >> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 3:31 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Coolant Hoses, Complete Set -- Remove and Replace >> >> Dennis: thanks for your comments -- you can't imagine how helpful they are. >> >> Progress report: >> -Got the van safely and conveniently up a bit higher; built a crude >> creeper and slid under the van for a long calm look. So nice to be able to >> poke around without an agenda. >> -Sprayed WD40 and worked the joints as recommended; spent a good while >> just looking and planning; I think I will start with the small heater >> connection that TEE's off of the large pipe near the T-stat housing. I >> will try to drain a portion of the coolant straight into buckets before >> opening the recommended front hoses at the pipes. I plan to open the >> radiator vent so that I can have a steady flow out of the hose. >> -I could not find the recommended "Final Charge" coolant online at Walmart >> but I will find a suitable alternative. >> >> Question: >> I have a non-function A/C system, including the rad/condenser. Does the >> A/C rad decrease the amount of cooling air that gets to the engine coolant >> rad? >> -if so, is there a good reason I SHOULD NOT remove the non-functioning A/C >> rad? >> >> Cheers, >> g >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:38 AM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> See below: >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>> Behalf Of Gabriel Hourtouat >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:59 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: Coolant Hoses, Complete Set -- Remove and Replace >>> >>> Progress update, Coolant Pipe Replacement: >>> -setting myself up for success with my workspace is a big task, two >>> days work. >>> >>> -cleaning the pipes: they are filthy with manufacturing grease and swarf. >>> I have yet to see a set of coolant pipes with so much stuff inside >>> that I would be concerned. Wad of paper towels and compressed air to >>> push it through should take care of any big stuff. If you really need >>> to clean oil or debris brake cleaner will do the trick. >>> But how do you clean them? A cloth on a rope? Use the recovered >>> coolant as the cleaning solution? Or is there a soap or detergent >>> which is safe to use? How do I know the manufacturing gunk is >> phosphate-free? >>> Are really worried about the gunk being phosphate free or just kidding >>> with us? Phosphate ir really only a problem if using hard nasty >>> European tap water. Aisian cars want extra. >>> >>> For the ideal coolant consider the latest stuff used in Diesel trucks. >>> "Final Charge" in the latest version is phosphate and nitrite free and >>> can last so long that you will be out of the coolant change business. >>> Walmart usually has this stuff on sale. >>> >>> -Radiator: it's not broken; but I'm tempted to change it anyways. Bad >>> idea? How do I clean it or test it? Just leave it? >>> Besides conditional appearance the side tanks can crack internally and >>> at some point they fail at the side tank to core connections. Take >>> your >>> chances1 >>> >>> -Is there a big difference between the BEHR radiator and the other >>> after market radiators? >>> For the BEHR brand radiators there is the original version and now the >>> "BEHR Service" version. The service version is made in China and it is >>> a different core design. Round tubes with straight fins spaced close >>> together. I have this version on Fun Bus. BAD DEAL INDEAD! It simply >>> doesn’t have the cooling capacity. It will have to come out. Nothing >>> like having the radiator fan run constantly even with the AC off. >>> Using the AC on 90+ days the fan will go to high speed even at highway >>> speeds. Of course this sucks cause besides the noise, when the >>> radiator fan goes to high speed the AC compressor is cut off. >>> >>> I have installed some Spectra I think CU357. Had one leaker in he core >>> but otherwise seem to fit and work as well as the BEHR. >>> >>> -Draining and capturing the coolant. I have a big tray to catch any >>> spills. What's the best draining connection to open? >>> Try as you may you will make a mess. If you really want to change it >>> all you need to remove the plugs under the heads. Disconnecting the >>> front hoses at the pipes lets you most of it out real fast. >>> >>> -Is high-spec Euro phosphate-free coolant worth the extra 20 bucks? >>> >>> See above about the Final Charge. >>> >>> Consider getting a cooling system pressure test set. You can fill the >>> coolant in the back, pump up the system, open the bleeder on the >>> radiator to let the air out. Close the bleeder, refill the tank in >>> back, pressurize and bleed again. Do this 2-3 times and you can have >>> the system bleed it enough to get it running before even starting the >> engine. >>> >>> Anxious, >>> gab >>> 1986 WBX 2 wheel drive camper with power steering and decommissioned >>> A/C >>> >>> ps -- after an oil and filter change, my oil pressure has bounced back >>> up to 28 psi at 4000rpm. >>> 28 psi at 4,000 rpm is still at wear limit or it is overheated. 10 >>> psi/1,000 rpm is normal. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 4:42 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Since you already have the pipes I would install them. Replace the >>>> hoses of course both ends while the system is empty. Consider van >>>> Café has a stainless steel coolant tower, downside is it still uses >>>> the >>> "130A" hose. >>>> Consider replacing the t-stat housing with the aluminum version or >>>> if you really want to go fancy the GoWesty billet housing and cover. >> ($$$). >>>> >>>> Your oil pressure is scary low. 28 psi @4,000 rpm is wear limit. You >>>> could be overheating the oil. Make sure it is not overfilled and >>>> that oil cooler is actually passing coolant. Maybe try replacing >>>> pump. The GoWesty pump is a good choice. They measure, test the >>>> shaft and throw away the junk. The o-ring cover gasket eliminates >>>> that common leak. My >>>> 91 @266K original bottom end with oil cooler and that pump holds ~28 >>>> psi at idle oil temp at 160F. At 190F ~20 psi. Fun Bus at 355K and >>>> original pump still holds ~14 psi hot idle. Both have oil cooling >>> systems. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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