Always have wanted the oil reasonably hot, but not scalding.  Maybe as you
guys say, warm, might be better.  I use nitrile gloves, like real techs do,
to protect myself, though I used to just let it get all over my hand.  And
even though the Waterboxer filter is at an angle, I still make a mess.  But
it is better than my Toyota Prius, with the filter up between other parts
in an area where my hand just barely fits.  It would be ok on a lift, but
the best I can do is to raise the vehicle 1&7/8" with a timber.  Lets me
fit under, but still cumbersome.  The camper is wonderful in that regard,
with the high clearance and easy access!

Related, slightly:  Is it ok to mix synthetic and conventional oils?  I
used to see oils that claimed to be half and half, and wondered if I might
get by with that, but home mixed.

mcneely

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:41 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Yeah, warm in my opinion is the way to go.  Gets whatever crap that has
> missed oil filter is now in suspension, oil viscosity is reasonable for
> draining, oil temp is not too high for burning hand yet alone those nearby
> exhaust manifolds.
>
> Thanks for considering and comments.  I will adjust my oil change regime.
> More pleasant and just as effective.  I've kinda know this all along.  Was
> just being OCD.
>
> Rich
>
>     On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 6:01:18 PM PDT, Eric Caron <
> ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  Same here,
>
>         no reason to get hurt for an oil change.  I just do it warm.  With
> my oil cooler I’m pretty sure I can’t get it all out anyway.  I get most of
> it out and refresh with new oil.  I have the oil cooler up front with the
> radiator.
>
> Eric Caron
>
>
> > On Jul 1, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > I change the oil not too hot and not too cold... meaning I let the hot go
> > down for at least 30 minutes then change the oil... obviously changing
> the
> > oil cold will take a lot of time to completely drain it...
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 5:24 PM Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Of course....Gerry stripped the link...  But it is at site called "
> >> mechanics.stackexchange.com"
> >>
> >> Sheesh...this is already too much work.  Carry on.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 5:16:05 PM PDT, Richard Koerner <
> >> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>  This is kind of one of those COVID-19 questions out of boredom; but
> >> there may be some merit in discussion.
> >>
> >> For my whole life, I have always changed my oil with it super Hot.  It
> >> wasn't too bad with the angled oil filter on a Wasserboxer; with the
> Subie
> >> motor with a vertical filter orientation, I invariably have issue of hot
> >> oil on cold hand.  I've taken to sacrificing on old leather glove on
> left
> >> hand....but it's always a mess when I loosen oil filter to drop it down
> >> into plastic pan.  And its always super hot.  Even putting drain plug
> back
> >> in, that's hot too.  I'm always in a hurry.
> >>
> >> Believe it or not, there is some discussion about this:  What happens
> if I
> >> change the oil when the engine is cold?
> >>
> >> |  |  |
> >> What happens if I change the oil when t...
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, I got my oil changed this afternoon, and I've done it hundreds of
> >> times including some sketchy places and circumstances over the last 45
> >> years.  But, it got me thinking there might be a better way.  A "cooler"
> >> way.
> >>
> >> So, what do you guys think?  Check out the link I added above.
> >> Interesting info.  Feel free to pass on this one.
> >>
> >> Rich
> >>
> >> San Diego
> >>
> >>
> >>
>