thank you Raimund...

this is the one to get... https://www.vancafe.com/251843876-p/251843876.htm

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:16 AM Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:

> The noise coming from the door pivoting into the latch (85+),
> is often enough a missing rubber insert on the slider rail front end
> (talking about the track below rear side window, not upper/lower).
>
> For the roller to pivot inwards, it hits the front 90° angle of the
> sliding track and if rubber is mising there, it´s a horrible
> steel-to-steel clunk
>
> Raimund
>
> Am 13.08.2020 um 19:46 schrieb steve meassick:
> > I installed this kit a number of years ago.  It did make the rolling
> quitter, but by no means silent.  Also, you still had pretty much the same
> noise as the door pivoted in during the final closing phase.  The noise at
> this time is not due to rolling.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List On Behalf Of Kenneth O'Connor
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:43 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: closing slider quietly
> >
> > I think this is the kit you mentioned:
> >
> >
> https://total-bus-bekloppt.de/produkt/vw-bus-t3-schiebetuer-lagersatz-auch-ab-8-84-92-mach-deine-schiebetuer-leise/
> >
> >
> > Wow, that seems spricey to me!
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:24 AM Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:
> >
> >> In Germany, there is a vendor that sells a roller bearing kit for
> >> newer
> >> (85+) doors, the rollers´ surface is made completely out of
> >> teflon/nylon/rubber(?)
> >> I have those in my glovebox, not yet installed. But from what I heard
> >> (rumors and personal experience on sliders equipped with them),
> >> they´re really quiet.
> >>
> >> Picture:
> >> http://www.v6bus.de/rollers.jpg
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Raimund
> >>
> >> Am 13.08.2020 um 18:20 schrieb David McNeely:
> >>> First, thanks Alistair for clarifying the confusion that has been
> >>> bandied about.
> >>>
> >>> Now, the important part:  Many later model campers DO have hard
> >>> closing sliding doors, with attendant noise.  I now know some of the
> >>> fixes for that, regarding new and remodeled parts, plus proper
> >>> lubrication.  Some even use a special tape on the door roller track
> >>> to help silence that.  I believe you are one of those.  BUT, being a
> >>> fabricator, do you think a handle could be fitted to the rear of the
> >>> door interior?  If so, how
> >> would
> >>> you suggest one do so?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks so much for all the good ideas you have put on here over the
> >> years,
> >>> even thanks for those I have not used (most of them, lacking
> >>> technical skills like yours).
> >>>
> >>> mcneely
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 8:22 AM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Raimund,
> >>>>
> >>>> My 82 diesel Westy, North American model, had the rear handle on
> >>>> the sliding door. Mounted, as mentioned on a square boss that was
> >>>> welded to
> >> the
> >>>> door structure. When I got the van the handle was oriented
> >>>> vertically,
> >> ie
> >>>> hanging down. Took me a few years to realize it could be re
> >>>> installed on the boss so it lay horizontally. Made grabbing it a
> >>>> tad easier. And
> >> yes, it
> >>>> was the spring loaded handle same as at the front off the door.
> >>>>
> >>>> My 86 Syncro , again North American model. Does not have the rear
> >>>> handle nor the mounting boss.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it’s safe to say the rear handle was dropped when the door
> >> design
> >>>> was changed in 85.
> >>>>
> >>>> Post 85 doors in good working order close so much easier than the
> >>>> older doors that the additional pull using a rear handle ain’t
> >>>> needed when you are trying to do that soft slow close :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Alistair
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Raimund Feussner <ray@v6bus.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Part number front/rear handle is probably identical.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Makes sense.
> >>>>> I have a 85+ sliding door, and am pretty sure it does not have
> >>>>> that square mounting stud in the rear.
> >>>>> The square stud still has to be the same as the square one on the
> >>>>> front release mechanism.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Never had the chance to check out a pre-85 door though...which
> >>>>> probably has the rear stud welded to it post-factory, because I
> >>>>> know there is no "bump" underneath the usual doortrim.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Raimund
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 12.08.2020 um 21:53 schrieb vw_van_fan_Mark:
> >>>>>> inside sliding door handle VW # 253 843 642 sold used Ebay etc,
> >>>>>> new replicas? from GoWesty
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >> https://www.gowesty.com/product/handles-trim/2286/inside-sliding-door-
> >> handle-
> >>>>>> I think many 80-84 Campers had the second one at the back.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Raimund Feussner wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hmmm, if it´s unique, it should have its own part number.
> >>>>>>> If it´s used anywhere else, we could do a parts search with its
> >> number.
> >>>>>>> The later style front slider door handle is this:
> >>>>>>> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UYEAAOSwbNZc4WzX/s-l640.jpg
> >>>>>>> Looks very similar, from Jim´s photo I looked at...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ready to learn something new. Can someone check the discussed
> >> handle´s
> >>>>>>> P/N ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Could be from an LT as well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> Raimund
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>