I for one am quite comfortable with the list the way it is, with the one
exception that I would like to see photos attached.  I am not a tech guru,
but my understanding is that is an option for the list, and previous
administrators chose not to allow it for reasons of conserving bandwidth.
That should not be a problem today, and the change could be made.

So far as the list being difficult for youngsters, well, it is far simpler
than lots of internet stuff today.  I subscribe to newspapers, magazines, a
couple of other social media devices.  All have mechanisms that this old
codger would rather not have to deal with.  Those more internet and
computer savvy than I am certainly should be able to handle this list
easily, more easily than I do other stuff.  And the instructions for the
list are exceedingly easy to follow.

The thing that bothers me a lot is that I long ago subscribed to Facebook,
because people kept telling me I really needed to to keep up with some
things.  Guess what?  It is terrible, intrusive, and so many other things,
some of which I can't say on a family friendly list.  But I can't figure
out how to unsubscribe, and keep getting all kinds of crap I don't want on
my regular email prodding me about using it (which I do not).  I also find
Yahoo Groups, which some people seem to love, to be a bother.  This list is
simple, pleasant, and friendly.  Let's keep it so.

Facebook be da_ned!

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 8:06 AM Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think this can be equated to a youngster wanting me to convert my camper
> from standard to automatic transmission. I think many on the list are
> comfortable with the list the way it is.
>
> Just sayin'
>
> Steven
> 91 Westy
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 6:08 AM Edward Maglott <emaglott3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Feeling a bit sad at the decline in the vanagon mailing list.  last time
> I
> > tried I could not query the server about how many subscribers there
> are.  I
> > remember when it was about 1500 and there was so much traffic I only read
> > threads I was directly interested in.
> >
> > I go way back in online communities to before the internet was available
> to
> > the public.  I have no problem with using a listserv and prefer it to
> > anything like a msg board or social network group.  I can see why new
> > people would find it daunting to use this list though.  The email only
> > configuration interface is very different for people who are only
> familiar
> > with pointing and clicking.  "I need to do what to
> > subscribe/unsubscribe/change my settings???"  I want to read old messages
> > about replacing my poptop seals.  uhhhh, "Searching the entire collection
> > will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!"  Here's a
> pic
> > of my instrument cluster repair.  What? I can't attach a photo?
> >
> > I recommend migrating the Vanagon list to a modern platform such as a
> > google group.  I did this recently for an email list that I have admin'd
> > for about 20 years and it was pretty painless.  It has all the controls
> and
> > features I had on the previous platform, and more.  This could revitalize
> > the list by attracting new members who now look at the instructions for
> > subscribing, scratch their heads and click away.  I think the Vanagon
> list
> > is an asset to the community worth saving.  It seems to be on a course to
> > dwindle away to nothing like other lists I've been on over the years.
> >
> > Edward
> >
>