I live in NE Washington, where we get around 50" of snow each winter.  The
road treatment used is a combination of calcium chloride and sugar beet
juice, applied as liquid and sometimes as solid.  Cars do rust, but not
anything like I have seen from the upper Midwest and Northeast.  I have
only been here since winter 2014-15, but my two vehicles, a 2006 Toyota
Prius and a 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile, are both rust free.  The
Prius I have owned since new, and it lived in Edmond, OK before, where salt
was used but only got 10-20" snow a winter.  The camper I've had since
2008, half that time in Oklahoma, half in Washington.  Before that it lived
in Arizona, so I expect little salt exposure.  I do wash them under with
commercial power wash occasionally in winter, but not every time I drive,
for sure.

mcneely

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:27 PM Jack R <jack007@comcast.net> wrote:

> Michigan Based 84 Westy, spent its winters in Mexico, until I purchased it
> in 1987.  It was a rust free delight.
>
> Despite being garage kept, driving in the heavy salted roads in Michigan
> (many do not know that there are salt mines under Detroit), my 84 Westy was
> hit badly with rust issues.
>
> After a full body restoration in 2006, it hasn't seen snow since, and has
> remained 98% rust free.
>
> Speaking for Fords Rusting... my wife's first car was a 1976 Ford Pinto,
> which was purchased new, and we had grease treated using the Texaco
> formula.
> It was the only Pinto on the road, 8 years later, that remained rust free!
>
> https://www.texacolubricants.com/en_uk/home/products/rust-proof-compound-l.html
>
> Best to "bottom blast" and wash frequently in the winter... I have a
> heated garage, which can be harder on a car, as the icy/salty slush can
> work its way easily into everything underbody, and through freeze/thaw
> cycles, it can tend to do much more.
>
> Watch the weather closely, and only drive when dry and temps are staying
> above freezing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Tom Hargrave
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 1:53 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Temporary Winter chassis treatment
>
> I'm from Western NY State. Back then the standing joke was 'At night, you
> can hear a Ford rust" and there was a lot of truth in that joke.
>
> Any Ford built in the 60's to early 70s sold without Zebart treatment
> would rust to the point it would fail inspection for structural issues in
> three years. Some foolishly refused to pay for the undercoating process and
> they paid dearly later. A high school friend of mine, Kevin Snow, drove a
> rusty 1971 Mustang to school. You could lay on the ground, look up into the
> doors and see the window mechanisms. I lost a bowling ball through a hole
> in his trunk and that's with a trunk mounted gas tank. But the interior was
> nice....
>
> But Ford just happened to be the worse. Anything else would last 2 - 4
> more years! VW's would last 2 - 4 more years just like the rest but the
> heater would die after the second winter. The heater channels would pinhole
> and let all the heat out before it reached the front.
>
> Even more recently it's standard to cut even a 2 year old exhaust systems
> off with a torch and brake or suspension work often starts with a torch.
> Most modern factory exhausts are stainless steel but none of the fasteners
> are stainless. Same goes for brake and suspension hardware. Anything with
> threads is a worthless corroded mess after two winters.
>
> Things did get better in the 80s but if I had a Syncro I wouldn't expose
> it to that CRAP!
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Dan N
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 9:31 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Temporary Winter chassis treatment
>
> oooh yes... how many gallons/pounds of fluid on the road by  the way.. aha
> / On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:47 PM Mark Belanger <mbelanger@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That is positively awful for the environment. Surely, there must be a
> > better technique?
> >
> >
> > -MB
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:45 PM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> An old recipe...
> >> Back in the old days in Europe, they did this... 3 parts of engine
> >> oil, one part of gasoline in a hand pump sprayer...
> >> Wash under the van and spray generously... I never saw this practice
> >> in the USA but I am doing this every winter for my vans.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 5:54 PM Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I’m considering taking my Syncro to visit family in a few weeks in
> >> > MI
> >> and
> >> > would love to take my Syncro to play around in snow. I live in GA
> >> > so
> >> it’s
> >> > rust free.  Has anyone done any temporary chassis treatment to
> >> > lessen impact of salt?  Oil bath?
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> > Wysłane z iPhone'a
> >>
> >
> >
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