

| Subject: | Re: Unreadable posts (was also: Vanagon List Archives: A TechnicalProblem) |
| From: | Mark McCulley |
| Date: | Tue, 27 Apr 2021 10:11:16 -0700 |
This is not a new problem, it has been discussed in the past. The vanagon list is running on an ancient version of listserv software, circa 1999. Here is a quote from an email from Jim Arnott, the site administrator a few years ago discussing what might be involved in upgrading the software: Listserv Classic license - $2,525 - $16,900 New server - (guessing) $1000-$1250 New OS - Linux - the time to configure. Windows - Windows Server 2016 Essentials - $500 So… A minimum of $5k when all is said and done. Plus someone with the knowledge & time to set it all up. (That ain’t me. I have neither.) On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:08 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: > here is the archived message from Dennis - June 2919 to April 2021 > > > http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S2=vanagon&L=vanagon&q=&s=&f=hotmail.com&a=June+2019&b=April+2021 > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:00 AM John Thiessen <john.thiessen@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > And here is an example of what it looks like in the archives: > > > http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind2104d&L=vanagon&F=&S=&P=4998 > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:58, John Thiessen <john.thiessen@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > That's correct. All modern (current) email clients decode them on the > > > fly and you never even know it. > > > > > > This issue exists because the server that archives the emails cannot > > > decode Base64. This means you will never be able to search/ read the > > > emails encoded with Base64 (such as Dennis' .. a real shame). > > > Additionally, when the server accumulates a handful of emails and then > > > issues them in digest mode, you will not be able to read those Base64 > > > emails (unless you manually decode each one of them) > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I just had a look at the raw version of several of Dennis' posts (in > > elm, pine and Apple Mail) and all the ones I examined are base64 encoded > > which is pretty standard. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Thiessen wrote on 2021.04.27 13:33: > > > > > > > > So we are getting somewhere .. There was no problem in the past. > > > > There now is a problem; certainly for some months now. > > > > > > > > The issue may be with a setting in Dennis' Hotmail account, OR, it > > > > could be a setting in the email client that Dennis uses to send > > > > emails. > > > > > > > > Note that there are other members where from time to time their > emails > > > > are also unreadable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:16, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > something must have happened on the List server related to Dennis' > > email address recently... > > > > > > > > here are one from him long ago (April/2017) and one from another > > person, both using Hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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