It's been 25+ years since I've hosted and maintained a ListServ. �  There
must be equal (or better) public domain/hosted solutions out there
theses days.�

What is the monthly volume and size of the archives?

Mark McCulley wrote on 2021.04.27 14:11:
> This is not a new problem, it has been discussed in the past. The vanagon
> list is running on an ancient version of listserv software, circa 1999.
> Here is a quote from an email from Jim Arnott, the site administrator a few
> years ago discussing what might be involved in upgrading the software:
>
> Listserv Classic license - $2,525 - $16,900
> New server - (guessing) $1000-$1250
> New OS - Linux - the time to configure. Windows - Windows Server 2016
> Essentials - $500
>
> So… A minimum of $5k when all is said and done. Plus someone with the
> knowledge & time to set it all up. (That ain’t me. I have neither.)
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:08 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> here is the archived message from Dennis - June 2919 to April 2021
>>
>>
>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S2=vanagon&L=vanagon&q=&s=&f=hotmail.com&a=June+2019&b=April+2021
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:00 AM John Thiessen <john.thiessen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> And here is an example of what it looks like in the archives:
>>>
>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind2104d&L=vanagon&F=&S=&P=4998
>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:58, John Thiessen <john.thiessen@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> That's correct. All modern (current) email clients decode them on the
>>>> fly and you never even know it.
>>>>
>>>> This issue exists because the server that archives the emails cannot
>>>> decode Base64. This means you will never be able to search/ read the
>>>> emails encoded with Base64 (such as Dennis' .. a real shame).
>>>> Additionally, when the server accumulates a handful of emails and then
>>>> issues them in digest mode, you will not be able to read those Base64
>>>> emails (unless you manually decode each one of them)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Roy Nicholl <RNicholl@nbnet.nb.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>>> I just had a look at the raw version of several of Dennis' posts (in
>>> elm, pine and Apple Mail) and all the ones I examined are base64 encoded
>>> which is pretty standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Thiessen wrote on 2021.04.27 13:33:
>>>>>
>>>>> So we are getting somewhere ..  There was no problem in the past.
>>>>> There now is a problem; certainly for some months now.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue may be with a setting in Dennis' Hotmail account, OR, it
>>>>> could be a setting in the email client that Dennis uses to send
>>>>> emails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that there are other members where from time to time their
>> emails
>>>>> are also unreadable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:16, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> something must have happened on the List server related to Dennis'
>>> email address recently...
>>>>> here are one from him long ago (April/2017) and one from another
>>> person, both using Hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>