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Subject:Re: Front end rattle solved
From:Eric Caron
Date:Tue, 11 May 2021 19:55:44 -0400

Very cool, 

        I look forward to seeing Frank again, hopefully Bus Fusion 2022. 

I may mostly do small tasks but I am loving the continual learning and even  small van improvements.

Hope you get rid of or prevent future rattles!

Eric Caron 
85 GL Auto 

> On May 11, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Eric, Your initiative has prompted me to do a better job.  Here is the same
> part from Frank Condelli -- THANKS FRANK!
> 
> Grommet, rad support, 171 121 276D
> 
> https://
> www.frankcondelli.com/staging1/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=330
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:12 PM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Here is the message a friend sent me with the links to the radiator
>> grommets.
>> 
>> Buslab is the last one.
>> 
>> Go Westy sells the radiator grommets, however they are out of stock.  The
>> kit costs $5.45.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.gowesty.com/product/radiator/25405/rubber-radiator-mounting-pads
>> <
>> https://www.gowesty.com/product/radiator/25405/rubber-radiator-mounting-pads
>>> 
>> -?v=
>> 
>> Vancafe also carries these, however they are out of stock at $5.50 for the
>> kit.
>> 
>> https://www.vancafe.com/171121276D-SET-p/171121276d-set.htm <
>> https://www.vancafe.com/171121276D-SET-p/171121276d-set.htm>
>> 
>> Happily, BusLab has them in stock for $1.19ea and a quantity of four are
>> needed.
>> 
>> https://www.buslab.com/product-p/171121276d.htm <
>> https://www.buslab.com/product-p/171121276d.htm>
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> And nice plus for me the web site was great with my screen reader, so I’ll
>> be starting many bus purchases at bus Lab.
>> 
>> Eric Caron
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2021, at 11:40 PM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:
>> OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>              Eric
>>> 
>>>      Can You Please send link to part @ BusLab. Did a search & got
>> nothing ~
>>> 
>>>                                                      ORR ~ DeanB
>>> 
>>>> On 10 May , 2021, at 12:36 PM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET
>> <mailto:ericcaron96@COMCAST.NET>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m sure there are clever solutins out there.  Or go to Bus Lab while
>> they still have some.  They were out at GW and Van Cafe.  Might be at other
>> venders as well.
>>>> 
>>>> A excuse to get other fun bus items?
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 10, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Gabriel Hourtouat <ghourtouat@gmail.com
>> <mailto:ghourtouat@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> oh oh -- thanks for posting this thread -- it's prompting me to look
>> into the home-made donuts I used to replace the disintegrating bushing I
>> found when I replaced my radiator last year.  Had taken a couple of wraps
>> of some kind of tape that sticks only to itself over my finger and then
>> rolled it off my finger to make something that looked like an o-ring.
>> Tried a couple of times until it was a reasonable size.  Maybe ganged a
>> couple of little donuts together to take up the space.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:33 AM Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net
>> <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net> <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:
>> ericcaron96@comcast.net>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Alistair,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The bushings I replaced looked just like the new ones except they were
>> highly compressed in the center. They became almost paper thin.  One was
>> ripped almost through.  Even though they felt just like the ones I replaced
>> them with I hope the new ones from Bus Lab, are a better material.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m pretty sure when new the old ones would have felt and looked just
>> like the new ones.  Quality of materials is a common disappointment for
>> me.  There is no reason they should have failed so quickly other then the
>> material was not up to the task.  If these fail, I’m tempted to make my own
>> out of a old silicon pot holder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
>>>>> 85 GL Auto
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 10, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca <mailto:
>> albell@shaw.ca> <mailto:albell@shaw.ca <mailto:albell@shaw.ca>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The rubber bushings that fit over the studs on the rad?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did they fail by going hard or did they crack?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nice to get the rattle so easily fixed :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 10, 2021, at 5:58 AM, Eric Caron <ericcaron96@comcast.net
>> <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net> <mailto:ericcaron96@comcast.net <mailto:
>> ericcaron96@comcast.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    I know others chase down rattles so I wanted to share a success.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My fix was fairly simple compared to Alistair.  I think he mentioned
>> a rattle and now he is talking about a new engine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyway, when returning from our first outing about 100 miles away,
>> the van would rattle on dirt roads.  Mostly quiet on smooth roads.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    The rattle was in the front of the bus.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The solution came from Dennis,  He told me to check the radiator to
>> see if it was moving slightly at the top.  It was.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    He had used locally sourced bushings and they looked great  and
>> exactly like the originals. but they failed .   I had to search several
>> vender sites and finally found them at Bus Lab.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hopefully these last.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dennis also sent me the info on how to replace and I enjoyed the
>> small fix.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For me this is a reasonable job but something new and I learned a
>> lot in the process.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, if you hear a rattle in the front when going over bumps or dirt
>> roads, you might be able to make that go away with a simple update to the
>> radiator bushings or just tightening it a bit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks Dennis and others including help from a friend to find the
>> correct and out of stock bushings!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> eRic  Caron
>>>>>>> 85 GL Auto
>>