Hi folks, 

For rust treatment a recent body work person asked me to treat my seams with Fluid film in advance of touch up work this fall.  It  seems to be almost a animal product.  Anyone have experience or thoughts about it? 

I am treating my seams and such now and then in advance of touch up work. 

Eric Caron 
85 GL Auto 

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:10 AM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Naval jelly was what I was trying to think of. I have had good luck with it
> in the past.
> 
> Thanks for the tips.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 6:49 AM Thomas Casal <thomas.casal@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> There are a ton of rust converters on the market these days, ospho being
>> the most recommended on thesamba from what I’ve read. I’ve used a bunch and
>> bought a bunch. I have about 6 different rust converters in my garage.
>> Skunk rust, marhyde, ospho, corroseal, por15 etc….Some are water based now
>> like corroseal I think marhyde too. Water based are solid because they are
>> foamy after you shake them and so they stick to the area a bit better than
>> the acid based products for vertical seams or under body where the acid
>> will run Off easier. I’ve had good luck with both, corroseal you can buy at
>> the homedepot. I’ve been using marhyde this summer just cuz I have it, it’s
>> a solid product they all are if you follow the instructions. I would only
>> treat rusty spots with either water or acid based converters and then I
>> would apply an epoxy primer and master series chassis paint over the
>> converter then I’d apply waxoyle chassis wax and cavity oil in the
>> cavities. That’s my plan for my chassis anyway. Scraping that crappy under
>> coating that just traps moisture is the worst part of the job. Got mine
>> mostly scrapped off. It’s like they were trying to make these vehicles rust
>> out from the factory. One guy joked it was “VW’s factory rust enhancement
>> process”. My two cents on the Rust battle.
>> 
>> One other route I forgot to mention is you can try the naval gelly that
>> dissolves the rust too sold at the homedepot. that I haven’t used for the
>> vanagon just rusty tools seems to work great. God speed.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 3:01 AM John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a product - phosphorus based I think - And available at home
>>> Depot, that will convert rust into a chemical that protects from further
>>> rusting. Can't remember what it is called. I used it many years ago on the
>>> steel beam bumpers on a motorhome. It converted the rust, turning it black
>>> and protected from further rusting. Painted it on, left it for a few
>>> minutes, then washed it down with water. Finished as black, I never
>>> bothered to paint it. I have some surface rust on my current van, and if I
>>> can find this treatment, I plan to use it again. but my question is -
>>> would
>>> it be appropriate as an undercoat for repainting my van. I certainly
>>> want to stop rust, BUT I wonder about the effects on paint.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else dealt with  this  stuff. It was very simple to use, but I
>>> had my wonderments about its use before painting. Anyone? How did you deal
>>> with surface rust before painting.
>>> 
>>