

| Subject: | Re: Trip Report & other data Oil temperature |
| From: | Dan N |
| Date: | Tue, 6 Jul 2021 10:04:56 -0700 |
I notice there's a difference in oil temperature measured at the oil cooler (170°F) and at the oil filter (250°F) and heat exchanger and I am surprised too. My guess is the oil filter and heat exchanger are too close to the exhaust pipe - about 2 inches from the exhaust pipe/elbow to the tip of the oil filter, and I think this makes a false reading. The IR gun picks some heat from the exhaust pipe when I point it to the oil filter. fyi... in this order : oil filter + Mocal sandwich adapter (about 2" thick) + heat exchanger On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 9:32 AM Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks very much Dan for making the effort of running this test / > experiment with all the details provided. Curious to hear what other > comments may follow. Also curious to know what the temperature of your oil > actually is given all the various readings. > > Bruce > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 8:21 AM Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I told Bruce that I will record the engine temperature on my van for him >> and send it to him... I am not sure what is relevant. I did as best as I >> could. >> >> Van description. >> - 1990, Tin Top Syncro. >> - Rebuilt 2.1 WBX with about 5K miles. >> - 14" wheels with General Grabber AT2 >> - Vanistan oil cooler with fan. >> - Home made air scoops on both rear vents. >> - Small Thule cargo box on the roof. >> - Engine and radiator were recently pressure washed. >> - No oil temp. and no oil pressure gauges. >> - 20W50 Lucas High Zinc oil (not synthetic). Oil level is between 2 marks >> on the dipstick. >> - One bottle of Lucas Super Coolant in the coolant system. >> >> The drive: >> - 9 miles one way on 2 lanes country road, 4.5 miles of flat terrain >> (about 55 mph), 4.5 miles of twisty uphill road (about 40 mph on 3rd gear). >> Total drive 18 miles. >> - Temperatures are measured using a Ryobi IR gun after 9 miles out and >> after 9 miles back. Ambient temperature 90°F. >> - Driver only, empty van with some tools. >> - Have AC but not ON. >> - Some stop and go in traffic in town. >> - The temp. needle stays on top of the red LED. >> >> Temperatures measured at: >> - Vanistan oil cooler: 170°F >> - Hose from engine to oil cooler: 195°F >> - Return hose from oil cooler: 170°F >> - Oil filter: 250°F >> - Heat exchanger: 268°F >> - Thermostat tower: 162°F >> - Coolant expansion tank: 190°F >> >> I am not sure about the accuracy of my measurement but I tried ... :-) >> I will re-measured at a specific spot(s) if there's any request. >> >> dan >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 6:04 PM Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A quick update - came home from work and replaced the oil temp sender >>> with >>> the proper one - looked at it closely and it even said VDO on it even >>> though I bought it separately from the VDO gauge. Removed about 600 >>> millilitres of oil in the process and went for a drive around the City in >>> after work traffic. >>> >>> Now I never got out on the open road so I couldn't really get going to >>> check on things too much but I can say that around town stopping and >>> starting in mid afternoon sunny weather I was running about 218 F with >>> the >>> first stage of the fan kicking in and out. Not a lot of consistent air >>> flow or sustained speed. Oil pressure at idle was a little higher at 21 >>> psi from 18/19 yesterday - not sure if it had anything to do with >>> draining >>> the oil level down which in turn kept things a little cooler. >>> >>> So now it seems I am a bit more in the ballpark when it comes to oil temp >>> and can start dialling things in a bit more to understand the operation >>> of >>> my motor. I think both suggestions made quite a difference. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>
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