I installed a set of springless cylinders years ago and was never happy with the way they had to be pumped. Last time around I installed a set from Bus Depot advertised to have the springs. Much much  better. Worth the effort to get them. 

Jim

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> On Sep 2, 2021, at 10:08 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net> wrote:
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>         ’Tis My understanding that the ATEs are the weapon of choice & may possibly be the
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> only 1s that have the springs ~
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>> On 1 Sep , 2021, at 11:18 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> That's what I thought. I have some brand new generic ones and Meyles, all without springs. I have heard the ATE'S have them. Is it so?
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>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 10:18 PM OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net <mailto:OlRivrRat@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> On 1 Sep , 2021, at 8:46 PM, John Rodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM <mailto:jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
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>>> Should the brake cylinders on the rear wheels have springs in them?
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>>        It is My understanding that that is the general consensus ~