Didn't mean to be calling anyone out for being soft, just relating my
preferences.  I apologize for offending.  Dave

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 9:02 PM Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
wrote:

> Well, for starters, I’ve been told that divorces can be expensive …
>
> Seriously, there was a time in my life where I had the time and
> opportunity to go wherever and whenever I wanted.  That time has passed. I
> think you both live in places where you can access remote areas more
> easily. In Canada you cant generally camp on Crown land if you’re not in a
> proper campground (Alistair you follow logging roads, right?) and ever
> since I survived the widowmaker at the ripe old age of 42 I like to stay
> within cell phone range. If it happened again at least my kids can call
> 911.
>
> Ironically I find that less serviced campgrounds are often noisy, full of
> big units with generators. And BLM lands have their own issues as the many
> Facebook pages dedicated to boondocking will attest.
>
> I chuckled a bit McNeeley as you called me out for being soft. My buddies
> who tent camp off grid or build igloos on Lake Winnipeg in February would
> say the same about you in your swishy van. We all have our tolerance level
> for roughing it and these things change.  Dennis has a Class A RV I believe
> that he takes on longer trips - given the option I’m sure my wife would
> prefer to travel with him.   Unless you have your own show on the Outdoor
> Life Network we are all pretty much in the same boat er… van.
>
> Jeff
> 85 Westfalia whose amenities work the same on power or propane.
>
> >
> > Don't mean to sound snotty, either.  But, what's the point of "camping"
> if
> > there is power, piped water, and so on?  I purposely go to places without
> > those things, because others don't.  I do go to USFS and BLM campgrounds,
> > but purposely choose ones without water and power when I do.  If I want
> > amenities, I can go to a hotel.  mcneely
> >
> >> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’m with you jeff on keeping the propane. Works fine most of the time up
> >> here in the great white ( dope slap me for implying Vancouver island
> >> anything like Winnipeg ).
> >>
> >> I just got pissed off this last trip and pulled trigger on the electric.
> >>
> >> Oh and we never camp, forgive me if this sounds snotty, places with
> power.
> >> Heck, we don’t even have cell coverage.
> >>
> >> Alistair
> >>
> >>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks - I had no idea. Just assumed the venting would be somewhat
> >> flexible to accommodate different rv setups.
> >>>
> >>> I’m fine with my existing setup.  It lights easy and stays lit. My van
> >> is white so stays pretty cool. I’m in Winnipeg so it gets as warm as
> 37/38C
> >> but average highs in the summer are about 26 I think.  On warmer days I
> >> just make sure I can plug in.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave,
> >>>>
> >>>> Many rvs have a separate chamber , box, vented outside , for propane
> >> combustion, heating and cooling.
> >>>>
> >>>> The vanagon a little different. Bit of a negative with the fins on
> back
> >> of fridge inside the van. Warming up the van.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alistair
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:09 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dennis, are you saying that Dometic (or other absorption units for
> >> that
> >>>>> matter) do not have sealed combustion chamber and double flue like
> the
> >>>>> original one for our vans does?  It seems that if they are intended
> >> for RV
> >>>>> installation they would have to have that.  mcneely
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dennis Haynes <
> >> d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Most of these units cannot go into the Westy without some serious
> >>>>>> consideration for venting. In the RV world designed spaces the rear
> >> goes
> >>>>>> into a chimney type area completely separate from the living space
> >> for both
> >>>>>> heat dissipation and combustion air-exhaust for the propane. The
> Westy
> >>>>>> Fridge is unique with the sealed combustion chamber and direct to
> >> outside
> >>>>>> connection for combustion air and exhaust.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf Of
> >> Jeff
> >>>>>> Palmer
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 10:58 PM
> >>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: dometic replacement
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yup 3 way. Or even propane only! Something like this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.com%2Fen-ca%2Foutdoor%2Fca%2Fproducts%2Ffood-and-beverage%2Frefrigerators%2Frv-refrigerators%2Fdometic-rm-2354-_-147206&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C6ce27c33bdce4f24baec08d974cffba9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637669258913444682%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=VpdPfQUCjjAdCL41nix4M717pWv81hNaSRiIHAIBUVM%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:44 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Three way as in propane, dc, ac?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I seriously doubt any new ones are made in the form factor that
> >> will fit
> >>>>>> our vans.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alistair
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jeff Palmer <
> w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Has anyone ever found a three way replacement they’re happy with?
> >>>>>>>> Jeff
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>>>> I'm really tired of fighting with my dometic, just about had it.
> >>>>>>>>> But I'd like to replace it with something that fits into the same
> >>>>>> space. It can be somewhat deeper but height and width should fit.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've looked on line at several possibilities but mostly I can't
> get
> >>>>>> the exterior dimensions. Sellers either don't have contact info or
> >> when
> >>>>>> contacted don't have the information.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Anybody got ideas how to find the exterior dimensions of items?
> >>>>>>>>> m
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
>