

| Subject: | Re: Where we camp, was Re: dometic replacement |
| From: | Jeff Palmer |
| Date: | Sun, 12 Sep 2021 12:39:54 -0500 |
Exactly! It’s the versatility that makes it so special to me. Jeff > On Sep 12, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Todd <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > That is the beauty of our small camping rigs - you can camp anywhere in > them if there is access to a site. They can be hooked up to water and > power if required, and if that what it takes to stay married or happy, and > they can be self sufficient otherwise not to mention good for stealth road > side rests. > > BT > > On Sunday, September 12, 2021, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> I changed subject line. I’m trying to be an adult :+) >> >> Jeff, yes, we camp pretty well 99% of the time ( when camping on Vancouver >> island, different on mainland) off logging roads. >> We like a view , be nice to have a water source nearby for swimming, and >> most important … no one else around. >> >> But that’s just us. Good friend Simon isnt quite as keen on the places we >> go. He prefers formal campsites. We both have a great time at the places we >> choose. >> >> Oh, and I don’t mind if the van gets scratched by branches etc. It’s >> harder to be so cavalier if you have a nice paint job :-) >> >> There’s no right and wrong way of enjoying camping in our vans. If it’s >> fun, do it :-) >> >> Alistair >> >> >>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:02 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Well, for starters, I’ve been told that divorces can be expensive … >>> >>> Seriously, there was a time in my life where I had the time and >> opportunity to go wherever and whenever I wanted. That time has passed. I >> think you both live in places where you can access remote areas more >> easily. In Canada you cant generally camp on Crown land if you’re not in a >> proper campground (Alistair you follow logging roads, right?) and ever >> since I survived the widowmaker at the ripe old age of 42 I like to stay >> within cell phone range. If it happened again at least my kids can call >> 911. >>> >>> Ironically I find that less serviced campgrounds are often noisy, full >> of big units with generators. And BLM lands have their own issues as the >> many Facebook pages dedicated to boondocking will attest. >>> >>> I chuckled a bit McNeeley as you called me out for being soft. My >> buddies who tent camp off grid or build igloos on Lake Winnipeg in February >> would say the same about you in your swishy van. We all have our tolerance >> level for roughing it and these things change. Dennis has a Class A RV I >> believe that he takes on longer trips - given the option I’m sure my wife >> would prefer to travel with him. Unless you have your own show on the >> Outdoor Life Network we are all pretty much in the same boat er… van. >>> >>> Jeff >>> 85 Westfalia whose amenities work the same on power or propane. >>> >>>> >>>> Don't mean to sound snotty, either. But, what's the point of "camping" >> if >>>> there is power, piped water, and so on? I purposely go to places >> without >>>> those things, because others don't. I do go to USFS and BLM >> campgrounds, >>>> but purposely choose ones without water and power when I do. If I want >>>> amenities, I can go to a hotel. mcneely >>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:53 PM Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I’m with you jeff on keeping the propane. Works fine most of the time >> up >>>>> here in the great white ( dope slap me for implying Vancouver island >>>>> anything like Winnipeg ). >>>>> >>>>> I just got pissed off this last trip and pulled trigger on the >> electric. >>>>> >>>>> Oh and we never camp, forgive me if this sounds snotty, places with >> power. >>>>> Heck, we don’t even have cell coverage. >>>>> >>>>> Alistair >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Jeff Palmer <w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks - I had no idea. Just assumed the venting would be somewhat >>>>> flexible to accommodate different rv setups. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m fine with my existing setup. It lights easy and stays lit. My van >>>>> is white so stays pretty cool. I’m in Winnipeg so it gets as warm as >> 37/38C >>>>> but average highs in the summer are about 26 I think. On warmer days I >>>>> just make sure I can plug in. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many rvs have a separate chamber , box, vented outside , for propane >>>>> combustion, heating and cooling. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The vanagon a little different. Bit of a negative with the fins on >> back >>>>> of fridge inside the van. Warming up the van. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alistair >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 7:09 PM, David McNeely <davmcneely40@gmail.com >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis, are you saying that Dometic (or other absorption units for >>>>> that >>>>>>>> matter) do not have sealed combustion chamber and double flue like >> the >>>>>>>> original one for our vans does? It seems that if they are intended >>>>> for RV >>>>>>>> installation they would have to have that. mcneely >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dennis Haynes < >>>>> d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Most of these units cannot go into the Westy without some serious >>>>>>>>> consideration for venting. In the RV world designed spaces the rear >>>>> goes >>>>>>>>> into a chimney type area completely separate from the living space >>>>> for both >>>>>>>>> heat dissipation and combustion air-exhaust for the propane. The >> Westy >>>>>>>>> Fridge is unique with the sealed combustion chamber and direct to >>>>> outside >>>>>>>>> connection for combustion air and exhaust. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> On Behalf >> Of >>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>> Palmer >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 10:58 PM >>>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: dometic replacement >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yup 3 way. Or even propane only! Something like this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.com%2Fen-ca%2Foutdoor%2Fca% >> 2Fproducts%2Ffood-and-beverage%2Frefrigerators%2Frv- >> refrigerators%2Fdometic-rm-2354-_-147206&data=04%7C01%7C% >> 7C6ce27c33bdce4f24baec08d974cffba9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa >> aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637669258913444682%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw >> MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata= >> VpdPfQUCjjAdCL41nix4M717pWv81hNaSRiIHAIBUVM%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 9:44 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Three way as in propane, dc, ac? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I seriously doubt any new ones are made in the form factor that >>>>> will fit >>>>>>>>> our vans. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Alistair >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jeff Palmer < >> w.jeff.palmer@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone ever found a three way replacement they’re happy >> with? >>>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@ATT.NET> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really tired of fighting with my dometic, just about had it. >>>>>>>>>>>> But I'd like to replace it with something that fits into the >> same >>>>>>>>> space. It can be somewhat deeper but height and width should fit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked on line at several possibilities but mostly I can't >> get >>>>>>>>> the exterior dimensions. Sellers either don't have contact info or >>>>> when >>>>>>>>> contacted don't have the information. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anybody got ideas how to find the exterior dimensions of items? >>>>>>>>>>>> m >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
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